Mercateers: Non-FB Registry Set is Up!

JrGMan2004

Looks like they are getting ready to add a Non-FB Merc Registry set. It's not in yet, but the names of the sets have changed to contain "FB" in em, "Mercury Dimes FB Basic Set, Circulation Strikes" etc. etc. Will the short set(s) be coming soon, too?

JrGMan2004

It's up! And check this out! Probally the only time I will see myself in 1st!!!!!!!!

TAP444

you better print that real quick for memory
Tim

Cocoinut

I'm happy to see it, as I have many non-FB coins in my set that I have no intention of upgrading to FB.

One problem, though - the weighting doesn't seem to be correct for non-FB's. Here are the coins that are over $300 bid in MS65, and their weights in the new set

'16-D....$14,500....10
'21-P..... $2,300......6
'21-D..... $2,300......6
'26-S..... $2,150......7
'25-D..... $1,300......6
'19-D..... $1,075....10
'25-S..... $1,050......6
'27-S..... $1,050......7
'20-S..... $1,000......8
'27-D........ $950......8
'23-S........ $875......7
'17-D........ $825......7
'24-S........ $825......9
'24-D........ $800......5
'19-S........ $750......9
'28-D........ $650......6
'20-D........ $565......6
'18-S........ $500......7
'18-D........ $450....10
'26-D........ $400......6
'17-S........ $355......5
'18-P........ $310......6

It's obvious that some adjustments are needed. The '18-D is the most glaring error. Sure, it may be a rare coin in FB, but it doesn't deserve a weight of 10 in the non-FB set. Let's see how long it takes to fix these.

Jim

Fairlaneman

Geez I went to look at your moment of Glory and someone has sniped you already. Tee Hee..

Keep plugging along George. Tee Hee..

Ken

fcloud

Ken,

Are you starting up with the Winged Liberty Dimes agian?

George,



Oops, George, it looks like Ken edged you out.

Tony

JrGMan2004

You outta be smacked for that Ken... though I'm still waiting for the Short Sets to come out......... that I might actually be able to compete in..........

Fairlaneman

smack, Smack, SMACK ouch that really hurt. Darn George take it easy on the old guy. Seems like those smacks picked up velocity between Florida and Ore E Gone.

Tony I just cant give up on these completely. Rick will probably put his No Band set in here and blow everyone away. I think I see a Flaw in this system which lets FB coins into the set that are a higher grade than any NB coin that has been graded. Not real sure but it looks like it to me. IMO only NB coins should be allowed in this set.

Darn I cant get my NGC NB coins in here either. The 26D is Killer.

Ken

JrGMan2004

I think it's fine to have FB coins in the Non-FB Registry... it's just that it's good that FB doesn't count for anything... I buy what I can afford... and really, I've been going more for MS65 and MS66 coins, because they are more reasonablly in my price range, and I'm able to get more out of my money, than if I was buying everything in 67 and 67FB... y'know? And personally, it's hard for me to go a long while without buying anything...

fcloud

Ken,

They did the same thing on Roosevelt Dimes. The full band coins do count, but as if they didn't have full bands.



<< <i> I just cant give up on these completely >>

-- Those dime can get into one's blood!

Tony

BrinkersMercs

I like the no band collection with being able to have full bands coins out there. I'll pay more for a coin with full bands, but certain dates (45, 39-s, 18-d, 19-d, etc.) are way out of my league in full bands. At least I'll have a little better chance to be in the top ten with full band coins being graded with just grade mattering.

mercurynut

You would rather play in the "minor" leagues of Mercs......

Fairlaneman

The "minors" is much better than the "bleachers".....

marcmoish

I agree

DeepCoin

I will be adding my set when I get home on Tuesday. Good luck everyone. Now we have a set that folks with less $$$ can play in. I agree that the weights need to be changed, even though I have some that will have their weights dropped. Someday I will complete my set, but for now I am happy to have a NB set.

From my perspective I think the FB coins should definitely be left in. If you look at some of the pops, getting a nice NB coin can be difficult. For example, the 16-P is a VERY common coin, but try and find one in NB. I have an NGC I need to cross when I get around to it, but there are very few of these coins. Just leveling the playing field is all I wanted and I am VERY happy this set has been put up.

I am not trying to decide if I should delete my set from the standard basic set, but until we get over 40 entries in the NB set I will keep my other one just so people can see it. By the way, the one coin I have that is registering as a FB coin is really a NB coin that needs to be fixed by PCGS. Hopefully I can get it taken care of next week in Baltimore.

Fairlaneman

Rick you mentioned that some of the NB coins are very tough and have very small populations. That is Exactly why I think the FB coins should be left out of this set. You and probably others have been looking for some of these dates for ages. Why should you not get rewarded for that work ? Betcha anything you could have finished your set with FB coins along time ago.

If it is going to be a NB set....Keep It That Way.... and let the owners reap the rewards for putting the set together with TRUE NB coins.

JMVHAOSO......

Ken

Cocoinut

I view the hobby as bringing the most enjoyment by buying the best you can afford. In some cases , that may exclude FB, FH, FS, and FBL coins. There are plenty of "near miss" coins out there that have the eye appeal of the higher-priced coins that are "fully struck", but sell for a fraction of the price. Both the FB and non-FB Merc sets should allow coins with and without the FB qualifier, but the same coin should not be allowed in both. I prefer to play the registry game in just one of the sets, and let the chips fall where they may. I have many Mercs in the teens and twenties that are non-FB, but I have no intention of registering them in the new non-FB set. If certain FB Mercs are out of my price range, I just accept the fact that I'll never be #1, and enjoy my coins. The competition of the Registry is fun, but judging from the comments on other threads over the past week, there are some participants whose primary goal seems to be to stoke their egos. Face it, unless you have very deep pockets, a #1 Registry set in most cases is only a dream.

We have seen some Merc Registry participants with high-ranked varieties sets who have not entered their coins in the basic set. The same principle should apply regarding the FB and new non-FB sets.

Jim

idocoins

Congrads George.......

DeepCoin

Jim,

I agree with your basic premise. I have two Merc registry sets, but I do not use the same coins in each set. Of course I am now conflicted as I think the NB set will be a much smaller group of collectors (unless it really catches on). I dont think you should put a coin in all four Merc sets, even if it qualifies.

I think I will enter my NB coins in the new registry in order to support it and once I am successful, I will delete my basic set. I guess it will be time for some folks to move up again in that set.

Ken,

I agree with your position also, but as long as a FB coin is not in another set I would be OK with it being in the NB set. My problem is that I dont want the cost of NB coins going up because of their relative scarcity in some dates. For example, I have a 1918-P in 66 that is a pop 1/0 coin. Should the value of that coin increase because of the NB registry? Most likely not. Anyway, I really appreciate your support of this lower cost means of collecting Mercs. For me it is about the pursuit of completing my set, NOT competing for a registry position. I have very shallow pockets and the major players could easily run over my career efforts in a couple of weeks.