Hey Veterans

perkdog

Hi
Just been looking over some year old SMR's and have not noticed much changes in prices of vintage material. Wondering when there was a big jump in prices or if the prices have basically been around the same from the first issues, I know there is so many areas to cover on this but just looking for some info. For example say the set you are currently working on, did you ever notice a big change from one issue to the next or was it a slow rise to what it is now.

Griffins

Most of the sets I'm working on SMR is pretty far behind the times so it isn't even that close a guide. In general I"ve noticed a pretty steep run up on vintage (pre WW2) issues for the last 18 months, gaining steam since last fall.

psavlad

On a few of the sets I'm doing, the SMR is less than half what the cards are selling for on eBay. Even more 'modern' cards have jumped up in the past 18 months with people starting and competing in Set Registry's. I use it as a pretty general reference, it can be bang on, too high, or too low (most often, which to me would indicate this 'ol hobby of ours is starting to come on strong again). I always enjoy the articles and ads too.

pc

ive noticed MANY changes and all we need do is email Joe Orlando
when noticeable differences take place via ebay or any major
auction house.i copy or paste bidding history from ebay when there
is a major difference and within months the smr updates.the smr
is what we make it boys and girls.

RobE

I look forward to the day Funky Frank and I put our notes togethor and assist in a small area I have to contribute to PSA.I don't expect anything to change that much in the SMR but I'd really like JO to have this info on file for whenever he feels it's necessary to impliment to the public reports.

NickM

Where ebay transacrtions are the most useful is on showing the prices that commons are going for on a '50s or '60s set. If you search 19XX Topps PSA 8 (or 7, if it's a '50s set) in completed auctions, you will likely get at least 50 to 100 transactions of commons for the set. That is a large enough base to see with some accuracy what happens with prices of commons, unlike star cards, where there is probably 1 to 3 transactions at most of the same card during that time span. Discard the outlying transactions (on the high end, normally the super-tough commons, and on the low end usually either a qualifier undisclosed in the title, no transaction (reserve not met), or a questionable seller) and you have the range of common prices. The SMR figure should fall near the midpoint of that range. This has the advantage of already excluding the sales that are very cheap because of poor listing jobs - if it shows up on this search, it was well enough listed that any set collector in that grade should have found it.

Nick

MorrellMan

Pretty much a rule of thumb is the scarcer the issue, the further off is SMR - pre or post war; if there isn't a lot of trading on the specific issue, SMR tends to be low, actual sell prices tend to be high, creating a vast schism - generally twice as much as a half-vast schism....

perkdog

thx guys good info

mikeschmidt

How often do you guys communicate with Joe O. on this issue? 1955 Bowman baseball have always been low on the 9s and completely ignores the low pops - but my last e-mail to Joe with numerous prices realized (auction, Ebay and private) got from him a promise of some updates in the next SMR (two months from now - just missed the deadline).

MS

NickM

I occasionally (ok, rarely) communicate with him, although I did email him a while back with data about how SMR was too low in PSA 7 and 8 for 1954 Topps. That's one of the sets they moved up this month (and deservedly so - for months almost nothing that was adequately listed went off below SMR once shipping was figured in.

Nick