'Greattoning' is a great source for artificially toned coins. You could probably master the technique yourself with enough time and patience. Personally, I'm not into it enough to pay a premium for it and certainly not the $6.50 shipping he wants.
I have a real problem with the "toning" on #1. The color laydown on the reverse doesn't look normal to me -- at least I can't think of any way it would tone like that. Perhaps it's the time of night or I just lack imagination.
I wouldn't pay more the a couple of $$ for them, I am not an expert on AT, but I have done similar things in my toaster oven. Like LordM said they are fairly modern coins so I wouldnt pay a large premium for them. They could have toned that way in some one's attic still in the original mint package.
If the coins had always been left in the case, they never would have toned like that - they would just get an ugly haze.
I once brought back some BU decimal bronze back from the UK while on business but forgot about it and left it in a leather pocket of my briefcase. Well over a year later, the coins were found having toning similar to these coins shown. Call my coins UT (unintentional toning).
Not too long ago those first pictures (edited to add:all) would have been laughed off the world coin forum as being hugely AT and not worth anyones time..
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<< <i>Please forgive my ignorance but what techniques are used to produce AT? >>
That's one I would like to know, I would imagine "HEAT"( How much I don't Know), Maybe some sulfur(Matches???). Somebody said Pure Oxygen(sound dangerous). And somebody puts sulfur in vasoline and applies it to the coin(messy and how to control the end result)
Lightsiders seem to know alot about ruining coins this way to get more money
I bought several GB proofs sets several years ago (those common on Ebay) that had toning on several of the coins. Each of them have great rainbow toning of sorts, nice hues but nothing similar to this toning, and definitely not something I'd pay to slab given you can get the sets for a few coins on a good day on Ebay.
In some respects, these auctions remind me of the 71-73 Canadian dollars with that foam insert. Given what I've seen on those things, anything is possible I suppose.
<< <i>In some respects, these auctions remind me of the 71-73 Canadian dollars with that foam insert. Given what I've seen on those things, anything is possible I suppose. >>
My guess would be entraping the coin between that type of foam and doing a low temp "bake" over a period of weeks. Suppose you put the coin between the foam, then encase in some standard corrugated sheets, tape it up with masking tape, and just place it on your gas grill rack, and leave the grill in the sun (No! Don't turn the gas on!!! ). Just the radiant heat would "Cook" the coin at 130-150 degrees F.......
You could also try this by placing the coins into a WR folder and exposing it to "extremes".......and no, I've never tried this but for grins I think I will.
If I were grading for the Big 3, this crap would always be BB'd, except for known entities like the 71-73 Can. dollars where they are known to "turn" in this fashion.
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I once brought back some BU decimal bronze back from the UK while on business but forgot about it and left it in a leather pocket of my briefcase. Well over a year later, the coins were found having toning similar to these coins shown. Call my coins UT (unintentional toning).
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<< <i>geez, these are common decimal coins in PCI slabs. >>
Whether AT or not, this comment says it all. If someone did cook those coins, I hope it turns out to be a waste of time and effort.
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<< <i>Please forgive my ignorance but what techniques are used to produce AT? >>
That's one I would like to know, I would imagine "HEAT"( How much I don't Know), Maybe some sulfur(Matches???). Somebody said Pure Oxygen(sound dangerous). And somebody puts sulfur in vasoline and applies it to the coin(messy and how to control the end result)
Lightsiders seem to know alot about ruining coins this way to get more money
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I bought several GB proofs sets several years ago (those common on Ebay) that had toning on several of the coins. Each of them have great rainbow toning of sorts, nice hues but nothing similar to this toning, and definitely not something I'd pay to slab given you can get the sets for a few coins on a good day on Ebay.
In some respects, these auctions remind me of the 71-73 Canadian dollars with that foam insert. Given what I've seen on those things, anything is possible I suppose.
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<< <i>In some respects, these auctions remind me of the 71-73 Canadian dollars with that foam insert. Given what I've seen on those things, anything is possible I suppose. >>
My guess would be entraping the coin between that type of foam and doing a low temp "bake" over a period of weeks. Suppose you put the coin between the foam, then encase in some standard corrugated sheets, tape it up with masking tape, and just place it on your gas grill rack, and leave the grill in the sun (No! Don't turn the gas on!!!
You could also try this by placing the coins into a WR folder and exposing it to "extremes".......and no, I've never tried this but for grins I think I will.
If I were grading for the Big 3, this crap would always be BB'd, except for known entities like the 71-73 Can. dollars where they are known to "turn" in this fashion.