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Bizarre Seated Half dime Variety- Info. Needed

rheddenrhedden Posts: 6,626 ✭✭✭✭✭

I recently purchased a box full of Seated half dimes (lucky me), and several interesting varieties were included. One of them is an 1853-O with Arrows, and the right arrow seems to be punched over something else, perhaps an "o" mintmark. In addition, the "3" in the date may be slightly recut. The microscope photo below shows the suspected error.

1853-O Seated half dime

I don't have Breen's book in front of me, so maybe someone who does could tell me whether it's a recognized variety?

This is pure speculation, but perhaps a mint employee preparing the dies may have gone to punch the arrows next to the date, and used an "o" mintmark punch by accident. After realizing his mistake, he would have punched the arrow over the "o" to conceal the blunder. One other less interesting possibility is that it is an off-center clashed die error. If someone could shoot down either of these theories, I'd be pleased to hear your explanation of how this coin came to exist.

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  • lathmachlathmach Posts: 4,720
    According to Al Blythe the recut 3 is a known, but unlisted variety.
    Seems not to be a rare piece.
    According to his book it's found with a die crack off the 1 in the date. If your's doesn't have the crack, it may be an early die state.

    Ray
  • ms70ms70 Posts: 13,954 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very interesting piece! My non-expert theory is the O was punched there by accident & covered by the arrow. If it was a die clash
    the O should be incuse, not raised, & not to mention an extreme rotation.

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  • ms70ms70 Posts: 13,954 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Do you have a pic of the entire piece, front & back?

    Great transactions with oih82w8, JasonGaming, Moose1913.

  • rheddenrhedden Posts: 6,626 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't have any other pics, but do let me know if there's something else I should be looking for, like mintmark size, etc.
  • krankykranky Posts: 8,709 ✭✭✭
    I agree with ms70 - that's very interesting.

    Breen doesn't have much to say about the 1853-O half dime. Arrow and date position vary, and there were 18 obverse dies used.
    One specific variety mentioned is the "obviously recut 3"; that one had a die break develop from 1 to border. You need a way to overlay the photos of the mintmark at the same scale with that photo to see if it matches in size.

    New collectors, please educate yourself before spending money on coins; there are people who believe that using numismatic knowledge to rip the naïve is what this hobby is all about.

  • CoinosaurusCoinosaurus Posts: 9,628 ✭✭✭✭✭
    great photo. wondering if the thing under the arrow may be a misplaced digit??

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