#1 ALL-TIME & CURRENT REGISTRY SET OF PROOF IKE DOLLARS - SOLD

I expect to be listing on ebay later this weekend the All-Time and Current #1 PCGS Set of Proof Eisenhower Dollars. The key coins in the set consist of the following:
1. 1972(s) Silver Ike (PCGS-PR70DCAM) (pop 21)
2. 1973(s) Silver Ike (PCGS-PR70DCAM) (POP 1)
3. 1976(s) Silver Ike (PCGS-PR70DCAM) (POP 3)
Additionally, the remaining coins in the set are all sensational PCGS-PR69DCAM "MONSTER DCAM" specimens of the very highest quality, handpicked by me from among thousands of PCGS-PR69DCAM specimens I personally inspected.
I just wanted to give collectors here "heads up" in case anyone wants to discuss this collection with me ahead of me posting it up on ebay later this weekend.
Wondercoin
THE COLLECTION:
#1 SET
THE SET IS SOLD - CONGRATULATIONS TO THE NEW OWNER.
1. 1972(s) Silver Ike (PCGS-PR70DCAM) (pop 21)
2. 1973(s) Silver Ike (PCGS-PR70DCAM) (POP 1)
3. 1976(s) Silver Ike (PCGS-PR70DCAM) (POP 3)
Additionally, the remaining coins in the set are all sensational PCGS-PR69DCAM "MONSTER DCAM" specimens of the very highest quality, handpicked by me from among thousands of PCGS-PR69DCAM specimens I personally inspected.
I just wanted to give collectors here "heads up" in case anyone wants to discuss this collection with me ahead of me posting it up on ebay later this weekend.
Wondercoin
THE COLLECTION:
#1 SET
THE SET IS SOLD - CONGRATULATIONS TO THE NEW OWNER.
Please visit my website at www.wondercoins.com and my ebay auctions under my user name www.wondercoin.com.
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Russ, NCNE
Wondercoin
<< <i>See, you learn something every day on these boards. >>
Ah yes, and what did I learn today? That you having your own separate web site is redundant.
Russ, NCNE
Russ, NCNE
C'mon. Deal with the comment. This is a forum for ideas. Mine wasn't put there for you to personally jump down my throat, though "23 thousand posts" may seem specific to you, Russ. Just havin' fun with you (too).
Be nice. Baiting each other is too easy... okie dokie?
ps. Didn't you see the smiley???
What IS the rule on selling a registered set?
Does that rule only apply to newly listed sets that are just going to be sold soon?
If I have had a set listed for a long time (a couple of years or more)....can I decide one day to sell it
by advertising it as the "number ___" PCGS Registered Circulated Ike Set?
I still don't get what BJ said......Is it OK as long as you call it a "Customer's Set" and collect a commission on it?
Please enlighten me to!
Gandyjai
Edited to add:
<< <i>ps. Didn't you see the smiley??? >>
Yep, I saw it. Looks just as silly when you do it as it does when wondercoin does it. I'm curious, how often do you come up for air?
Note that I added a smiley so that makes what I said okay.
Russ, NCNE
Gandyjai: Thanks. It is a spectacular collection. Every coin in the collection is superb for the grade IMHO.
Wondercoin
P.S. On the issue of auctioning off collections listed in the Registry -I would really suggest contacting BJ for a clarification if you have such a set to offer for sale, just as I did before posting the Ike set.
Does this mean you got special permission to create this set with BJ knowing the set was created for the sole purpose of selling?
No smileys, this is a serious question.
Wondercoin
I just want to understand the rules. Yes, I have seen others advertise their sets for sale, but can't say I've seen one registered for the sole purpose of selling.
I don't want to come across as a combatant, just trying to understand......here is what the rules say:
Listing a coin(s) with the intent to sell it and/or pricing a coin(s) in the registry will not be accepted. The set registry is self-policing.
Help me understand?
Oh, & I LOVE how rare the 73-S Silver is.....POP 0
"A well-matched and exceptionally attractive set, with all coins residing in earlier, green-labeled holders. This set will be broken up and sold at Heritage’s Central States Numismatic Society Auction May 6-8, 2004."
So, as you see, there is plenty of precedent for my actions here.
Wondercoin
Last year two big IHC sets were sold this way, those being Gorrell at 2003 FUN and the Colburn set later in the year. In those cases the biggest problem that occurred was getting the coins delisted from the PCGS Registry as the original owners were not participants and the coins were left in the Registry after the auction.
Listing the coins before selling seems like a good marketing approach as it helps possible buyers become aware of the impending sale. Seems like its win-win for both the seller and buyer.
I've been a customer of yours before and I hope I will be again soon.
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Compa: Quite the contrary. I believed that suggesting to my customer to list his set was ENTIRELY within the rules, but, I did need to double-check exactly how to list the set and I did want to double check on my belief (i.e. how to label it in the Registry). Further, I felt that my failure to suggest the listing to my customer would have resulted in me doing a less than spectacular job marketing the set.
Finally, Compa, consider one more thing - in nearly every listing I have come across where an auction company properly lists a registry set, the intention is to sell off the coins one at a time ensuring the set will not exist following the sale (and, again, there is nothing wrong with that). In this case, however, I am trying very hard to keep this great collection in tact to ensure that following my sale, this very registry set will continue to exist exactly how I listed it in the Registry (truly the greatest Proof Ike collection ever assembled to date I believe). Who knows - I might even buy it and add it to my existing (21) active registry sets - I would only need to delete the word "customer" in the title.
Wondercoin
If it's OK to list your (or someone else's) coins on the registry for the purpose of selling, it's fine with me, we can all make registry sets with our dupes for the purpose of selling, heck it might even creates less threads on the BST board........"ALL COINS ON JOE CROE's DUPE REGISTRY SETS FOR SALE", then have links inside there to the different sets.........hey, pretty good idea!
But when I read the rules governing the registry I understood it to say that wasn't allowed. Now I am presuming that it is.....even had PCGS' blessing! I don't understand the comment, "I made certain in advance that what I thought were the rules, were indeed the rules to avoid breaking any rules,"........does that mean there are OTHER rules governing the registery set that supersede the ones on the registery page?
I guess part of my problem is that I'm, as my boss calls it, Mr. Black & White! I see things as good/bad, right/wrong, fair/unfair........I'm just trying to get a handle on were this fits in.
What would PISS my off, and I suppose a few other members is if there was a two tiered system whereby the 'big guys' get to sell on the registery & 'little guys' weren't.
Maybe a question for DH?
AJAI: Good point and my feelings exactly. I had every right to market this set the same way Superior, Heritage, etc. gets to market their customer's coins. But, I just wanted to double check before lauching off on my very first listing.
Wondercoin
Then the idea of posting 1 thread to these sets in the BST board would work!
Do I need to name the set in a certain way to be within the rules?
Wondercoin
One comment - a true #1 set of PR Ikes exists (which is better than the old #1 sets obviously), whether the #1 set is registered or not. While the #2 collectors might not be pleased they are no longer #1, the reality is that a better set did come along - this is not a case of "phantom coins" or estimated old collections. The reality is a better set of PCGS Proof Ikes now exists - right?
I expect to have the set of Ikes sold today and the new owner will likely take over the #1 slot and try to build on the #1 collection in the months and years ahead.
Wondercoin
<< <i>I expect to have the set of Ikes sold today and the new owner will likely take over the #1 slot and try to build on the #1 collection in the months and years ahead. >>
Which brings to mind the old saying "He was born on third base, but thinks he hit a triple."
2 points I have to make.....one I made, can we all create sets to sell, I think Russ is testing the waters right now, more power to him.
The other is that maybe, just maybe PCGS did not want to allow sets to be created for the sole purpose of selling so that DEALERS would create #1 (for example) all-time sets, bumping collectors out of that spot.
But you assembled this set just to sell & you are now the all-time finest & will remain the all-time finest once sold, which would be the case since you completed over 90% of the set, & that bothers me.
Dealers competing amongst themselves to create #1 sets to sell would not help the hobby....wow, hobby, I just remembered this is a hobby not a business, at least for me.
Maybe there should be a time limit for keeping the set on the registry before it can be placed on the all-time finest list. That would satisfy my second point....but who am I, just a little coin hobbyist.
Actually, I am not sure that is true. When I deleted my very first registry set ever (pulled the Ike set from the Current listings), the prompts told me that down the line I could ask to be deleted from the All-Time list as well.
In fact - isn't that a simple solution to the issues here - just ask dealers or collectors who list registry sets in connection with marketing them to delete them from the All-Time list as well when the sales are completed?
Wondercoin
Can't the rules just be easily stated?
-KHayse
Also you PM'd me about a 1981-S SBA, Type II - PCGS PR70, I am new to PM'ing and accidentally deleted the message without replying, please PM me again regarding the coin.