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Rent cert numbers for Set Registry

tripolitripoli Posts: 239
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This topic is borrowed from the coin side....they are all up in arms because someone on ebay is auctioning the rights to a cert number and not the actual coin (or card in PSA's case).

How do you feel about people renting/leasing/selling the right to use a cert number for Set Registry purposes if the true owner has no desire to register the card himself?

Unethical, entrepeneurial, no big deal????
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  • BasiloneBasilone Posts: 2,492 ✭✭

    I think it is lame.
  • GriffinsGriffins Posts: 6,076 ✭✭✭
    It turns the registry into a competitive game, which to me is the worst side of collecting. I'm with John on this one.

    Always looking for Topps Salesman Samples, pre '51 unopened packs, E90-2, E91a, N690 Kalamazoo Bats, and T204 Square Frame Ramly's

  • pandrewspandrews Posts: 7,598 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I think it is lame. >>



    agreed.. i cant think of a better term for it.. i dont know if its "unethical" or if it should be "illegal".. but damn, that just means somebody out there is actually satisfied NOT owning a card, and just "pretending" they do! what the hell kinda fun is that? let's play "make-believe" boys & girls!

    very lame indeed!
    ·p_A·
  • iamthegreatcornholioiamthegreatcornholio Posts: 3,366
    Wow, I can't really fault the seller, if someone is foolish enough to pay for 8 numbers then let them.

    Is there a prize for having the top set?

    Brian
  • KING KELLOGGKING KELLOGG Posts: 1,158 ✭✭✭
    Maybe the guy on eBay "rents" his sister too.....imageimageimageimageimageimageimageimage


    Common sense will prevail on this also...




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  • BugOnTheRugBugOnTheRug Posts: 1,611 ✭✭✭
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  • ctsoxfanctsoxfan Posts: 6,246 ✭✭
    Of all the words one can use to describe this - lame just about fits perfectly.
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  • murcerfanmurcerfan Posts: 2,329 ✭✭
  • pandrewspandrews Posts: 7,598 ✭✭✭
    hilarious pic..
    ·p_A·
  • SoFLPhillyFanSoFLPhillyFan Posts: 3,931 ✭✭


    << <i>Of all the words one can use to describe this - lame just about fits perfectly.

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    So Alex, what has more stink, my armpit or collectors selling/renting/buying cert numbers? And by the way do you think my changing deodorant helped end my hitting slump? Thanks again for suggesting Secret, "strong enough for a man but made for a woman."

    Next to the Phillies, the Yanks are my favorite - so let's not get offended.
  • 1420sports1420sports Posts: 3,473 ✭✭✭
    makes no sense to me, and if the seller of the cert actually sells the coin one day the "cert collector" may be out some coin ....
    collecting various PSA and SGC cards
  • GatorbaitGatorbait Posts: 149
    The word "douchebag" comes to mind.
  • mikeschmidtmikeschmidt Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭
    Ah, yes, the refreshing scent of pettiness and greed combined into one, sour fragrance. MMM mmm.
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  • MorrellManMorrellMan Posts: 3,238 ✭✭✭
    total BSimage
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  • jimtbjimtb Posts: 704 ✭✭
    Great Arod/Jeter pic!
    Collecting all graded Alan Trammell graded cards as well as graded 1984 Topps, Donruss, and Fleer Detroit Tigers
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  • AknotAknot Posts: 1,196 ✭✭


    << <i>Great Arod/Jeter pic! >>



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  • gemintgemint Posts: 6,101 ✭✭✭✭✭
    But did anyone actually bid? If not, then all's well in the collecting world.
    https://ebay.com/sch/gemint/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from=
  • dstudebadstudeba Posts: 215 ✭✭
    I will gladly rent my certification numbers. I agree the buyer may be lame, but I admire the seller's creative thinking if there truly is a market for certification numbers.
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  • ZodiacMindwarpZodiacMindwarp Posts: 680 ✭✭
    Link to thread

    Link to auction
  • fsjeterfsjeter Posts: 1,390
    PSA rules state: In order to list your set as current, you must own the cards you are listing or be an agent with permission to represent a collection. A card is not considered owned by you if you have sold it to another, regardless of buyback or return policies. Furthermore, this card should be removed from your set. If the same card should return to your possession and you regain ownership, you then have the option to relist it in the registry. I guess they consider a person renting a cert. # as an agent. I guess one could argue that the intent was to list entire collections and not just one card but that would be up to PSA's interpretation. image

    Maybe Joe Orlando should submit an opinion on this subject.

    Scott

    Edited to add: I can't believe the seller is charging shipping for that auction. What a Joke! image
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  • SouthsiderSouthsider Posts: 1,049 ✭✭✭
    To be fair to the seller, it does appear that he is actually selling the insert with the cert number on it and not just renting the numbers themselves. Not that it makes it any less pathetic for anyone to actually buy and use it in their sets, IMO.
  • FabfrankFabfrank Posts: 2,312
    Sure it's lame. Just goes to show how far someone is willing to go to get a piece of paper from CU.
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  • JasP24JasP24 Posts: 4,645 ✭✭✭
    Why would you even WANT the PSA certificate if you don't have the cards to earn it?

    If this auction were to go for good money, I bet PSA graded flips from cards that have been popped would start to show up on the bay.

    Since PSA doesn't have a "buy back" on these flips, maybe thats a way to defer costs of getting cards re-graded.

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  • onegauchoonegaucho Posts: 650 ✭
    Ditto on JasP24's comment. Why bother collecting if you don't actually have the cards? I mean, this is a hobby. It's supposed to be about the fun in collecting.... not "investing" or "having the best registered set"....
  • FuzzFuzz Posts: 903
    A sad state of affairs to say the least.
    What no one is mention yet is that the flip being auctioned is for a coin that has relatively low value and would not be competitve in a real registry race. It is the equivalent if you will of a late 80's, early 90's common in PSA 9. There are higher graded coins of that issue and it is the lowest weighting. I would wonder more about a potential WIWAG sort of deal than using the cert #.
    Fuzz
    Wanted: Bell Brands FB and BB, Chiefs regionals especially those ugly milk cards, Coke caps, Topps and Fleer inserts and test issues from the 60's. 1981 FB Rack pack w/ Jan Stenerud on top.
  • jrdolanjrdolan Posts: 2,549 ✭✭
    I'm thinking of asking Marshall Fogel if I can "rent" some of his sets for a few days. Heck, I'd go as high as $5.
  • GriffinsGriffins Posts: 6,076 ✭✭✭
    With free gradings for completion of 75% of any given set the motivation may not be awards as much the grading.

    Always looking for Topps Salesman Samples, pre '51 unopened packs, E90-2, E91a, N690 Kalamazoo Bats, and T204 Square Frame Ramly's

  • ctsoxfanctsoxfan Posts: 6,246 ✭✭


    << <i>Ditto on JasP24's comment. Why bother collecting if you don't actually have the cards? I mean, this is a hobby. It's supposed to be about the fun in collecting.... not "investing" or "having the best registered set".... >>



    That pretty much sums it up...
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  • highendhighend Posts: 534 ✭
    further testament to the fact that i will NEVER "see it all".
  • MantlefanMantlefan Posts: 1,079 ✭✭
    Are we card/coin collectors or do we collect PSA flips?

    How about this scenario....I submit my 52 Mantle five or six different times. I then have five or six flips with different cert numbers for the same card! Where does it end?
    Frank

    Always looking for 1957 Topps BB in PSA 9!
  • goodriddance189goodriddance189 Posts: 2,388 ✭✭
    absolutely pathetic.
  • JonBJonB Posts: 495 ✭
    totally stupid...

    but if someone wants to give me $1 for every PSA cert number i have (and let me keep my cards) i'll do it, and make thousands, lol.
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