I'M BACK!! (computer in the shop) Dipping question

loanshark

My home computer has been in the shop for repairs for over a week and have only been able to lurk at work. Can't believe I would miss this silly frustration of technology. Ebay here I come next!!

Several months ago I purchase an original bank roll of Franklin 1954 (my birth year) halfs. The roll is without a doubt mint state but the coins did not have that "new" look to them. I purchased a jar of E*Z*Est Coin Cleaner and decided to dunk one to see how it would come out. WOW, this stuff was fantastic!!

I followed the instructions to dip for only 7 seconds and I rinsed the coin off with liquid soap very lightly and rinsed very well. Then patted it dry with a towel. Talk about a blast white coin!!

Now I want to pick out the best of the lot, do the same thing, then send off for grading.

In your opinion, have I hurt the coin by doing this and will I have trouble getting it graded and slabbed?

Also thinking about doing the same to one of my brown box Ikes that has hazed up over time.

Opinions please.

Loan Shark

Neptune

WB LS .... I just got my computer back today .... actually still in the truck ...... HD went out - lost ALL my data including accounting and geneology. I just want to freakin' blow up because I was too lazy to back up onto my CDR... GRRRR

oh BTW - U R going to get blasted on the question .......

GTXQ?

Goober

I have some coins that have been dipped and it makes me sick. I purchased a beautifully toned raw Morgan on the Bay. It would've graded 64+. The guy dipped it b/4 sending it, I asked why, and he explains, "It brings out the natural color and tone. Doesn't it look better now?" Once I popped the coin out, it immediately fogged over and sits in a permanent state of fogginess. My other prize is a 1903-O. That coin is deeply struck, fine detail with little or no marks, except on the reverse where you have spots caused by dipping. I only paid $27 for the coin, and it looks MS65+ but the fact that it has been altered makes me cringe.

My question since it has been brought up, what loss is there to value on a dipped coin? I'm more curious about my '03-O more than anything.

airplanenut

<< <i>My question since it has been brought up, what loss is there to value on a dipped coin? I'm more curious about my '03-O more than anything. >>

If a dip is done well, it'll likely help, not hurt the grade... if it goes poorly, well, anything from a point to a bodybag.

Goober

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If a dip is done well, it'll likely help, not hurt the grade... if it goes poorly, well, anything from a point to a bodybag. >>



I always look on dipping as 'cleaning'. Is there a difference? I know ANACS grades cleaned coins and states so, what about NGC, and PCGS? If one is submitted will they decline slabbing it?

Myqqy

The guy dipped it b/4 sending it

Who is this yahoo who dipped the morgan you purchased prior to shipping it to you?? That's completely uncalled for, and I would have the sent the morgan back immediately for a refund.

Myqqy

the coins did not have that "new" look to them.

Can you be more specific with the appearance of the franklins?? Is it nice toning, or is it spots, streaking, something very unattractive?? I ask, because many people have this completely misguided notion that any coin that isn't "blast white" needs to be bleached out....

CarlWohlforth

If a 20'th Century coin is dipped properly it can end up being more attractive to the many people who prefer "blast white" coins. I prefer most coins with a touch of natural toning or colorful toning. Some original blast white coins are very nice. 19'th Century coins just don't look original if they have been dipped. A 100+ year old coin will normally have some toning or patina.

On super high grade mint state coins there is sometimes a "skin". Dipping can hurt or remove this so would lower the value in that case. Cleaning is the term often used to mean a harsher cleaning method, say wiping with a rag or some other abrasive method.

I tried dipping once. Spots developed. Your technique might be detectable which would then lower the value. This is because tap water is usually very hard and has many minerals in it. If the coin isn't rinsed perfectly well or if it is rinsed with tap water spots can develop. A coin with dipping residue is worth very little to me.

edited to add: Some people suggest rinsing with acetone or distilled water to avoid the spotting problem...

Shamika

<< <i>The roll is without a doubt mint state but the coins did not have that "new" look to them. >>


Are you surprised? Keep in mind, silver is fairly reactive in our atmosphere and these coins have been stuck in a paper roll for 50 YEARS!

Not the best method of preservation.

Shamika

<< <i>I purchased a beautifully toned raw Morgan on the Bay. ...The guy dipped it b/4 sending it, I asked why, and he explains, "It brings out the natural color and tone. Doesn't it look better now?" >>



What a freaking moron!

lava

<< <i>I purchased a beautifully toned raw Morgan on the Bay. It would've graded 64+. The guy dipped it b/4 sending it, I asked why, and he explains, "It brings out the natural color and tone. Doesn't it look better now?" >>



He may not have sent you the same coin. Sounds like he posts a coin knowing people might bid for its toning, then sends a duplicate so he can do it all over again. Ever check the seller's auctions for the same coin? If he did dip the coin, that is not only moronic but very wrong.

meos1

Dipping is cleaning. Anything that alters the surface of the coin is cleaning.

Dan

Steve27

"In your opinion, have I hurt the coin by doing this and will I have trouble getting it graded and slabbed?"

PCGS and the other TPG companies consider dipping to be a form of conservation and not cleaning; therfore, you have not hurt the coin and you will not have a problem having it graded and slabbed.

bushmaster8

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I followed the instructions to dip for only 7 seconds time....
Opinions please.

Loan Shark >>



7 seconds is overkill...keep it to less than 2 seconds...the less the better