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Question For IKE Experts on Die Polish and Grades

RampageRampage Posts: 9,487 ✭✭✭✭✭
Just a quick question--

What is the highest grade an IKE will grade, say 1972-D for example, that shows some die polish lines? Say the fields are near perfect and there is no major marks to speak of on the cheek and jaw.

Thanks for any input.

Richard.

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  • sumduncesumdunce Posts: 1,247 ✭✭✭✭
    I have a 1976-D T2 in MS66 with visible die polish lines under the Liberty Bell.

    I have a 1977-D in MS65 with visible die polish lines above the IGWT motto.
  • It looks like MS67 is the highest possible for regular circulation IKE's.
    But only a few made this grade.
    A very few silver IKES were graded at MS68.

    Ike's were the mint's first large heavy coin to be minted in many many years. Plus the metal alloy they used was extremely hard. Thus the coins were very difficult to strike. They typically adjusted the dies to strike coins for longer lives during the minting process which leads to weaker strikes. Then the mint was striking coins for circulation, so the coins all were handled roughly during the minting process.

    Thus any Ike's that do get graded high, bring premium prices as they are so very rare.
    Just getting a regular non-silver IKE to grade MS65 is almost like winning the lottery. MS66 would be like winning the big one. I don't know what I'd do if I got a non-silver IKE in MS67 grade or better, I'd probably get struck by lightning before I could enjoy it.
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  • Get the population report or look at James Sego's set. He has the top coins, you can see what they are and how many of them there are in PCGS slabs.


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  • RampageRampage Posts: 9,487 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think you all are misunderstanding my question.....

    My question is not: How high can an IKE grade?

    My question is: Can an IKE grade MS67 when it shows die polish lines or will it cap out at a 66?
  • A 1972-D...
    MS67 seems to be a perfect coin in IKEs, so it would likely cap out at MS66 at best.
    I don't know what they might think of the die polish lines though, that might detract.
    But then you never know until you submit it.
    Sorta like the lottery.
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  • DRGDRG Posts: 817
    I have graded a lot of MS65 & MS66 1972 D Ike's. As you have noticed they are very common with heavy die polishing.

    My experience is that it depends on their overall look but as you can guess MS67 is nearly impossible. I have had several coins that were essentially perfect otherwise and they came back MS65 when I was thinking MS67.

    I would say that die polishing will definitely keep you off MS67 as will any detracting mark.
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  • RampageRampage Posts: 9,487 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks guys-That answered my question. image I think I will still submit it. It is damn near perfect with the exception of the die polish. image
  • I hope you get the 67. I am submitting a 1970-D Kennedy that has 67+ surfaces but extensive die polish....I'll let you know how it comes back in a few months.
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  • segojasegoja Posts: 6,136 ✭✭✭✭
    You cna still get an MS67 grade with some die polish.

    I have one that was recently graded.

    I also have a 76-D Type I that is MS67+++ quality, but with die polish and they will not make it a 67, so you never know!

    Suggest most likely a 66.

    On the 67 clads they want huge strike and luster. Bagmarks are a factor, but a secondary one.

    Basically a 67 is a 66 with big strike and big luster.
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  • sumduncesumdunce Posts: 1,247 ✭✭✭✭
    <Basically a 67 is a 66 with big strike and big luster. >

    Minor contact marks on the face of Ike will also keep a stunning coin from making the 67 grade.
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