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1982 Dimes - a closer look

rlawsharlawsha Posts: 1,033 ✭✭✭
I recently got 2 dimes graded by PCGS. The dimes are 1982-P and 1982-D. Each dime came back with a PCGS MS-66 grade.

MY GRADES:
LINE # CERT # COIN DATE DENOMINATION VARIETY COUNTRY GRADE
1 21595464 1982-P 10C USA MS66
2 21595465 1982-D 10C USA MS66


Here is the population data for the dimes. The 1982-P has an MS66 POP of 34 with only 6 higher. The 1982-D has an MS66 POP of 30 with only 25 higher. I do realize there are only 73 dimes graded total so the results are not very representative of the real world.

PCGS POP REPORT:
PCGS No Date Den Variety Desig VG-VF 40 45 50 53 55 58 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 Total
5161 1982-P 10C MS 0 0 0 0 0 1 9 0 0 2 2 6 13 34 6 0 0 0 73
5163 1982-D 10C MS 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 6 11 30 25 0 0 0 73


The PCGS price guide lists the 1982-P at $230 and the 1982-D at $15. I would be be willing to bet the real world price is somewhere in the middle near the low end.

PCGS PRICE GUIDE:
Coin # Description Desig 60 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70
80 1982-P - - - - 15 230 800 - - -
81 1982-D - - - - - 15 100 - - -

I know the columns will not come out in line but I think you get the idea. I guess the main idea here is to take the price guides with a grain of salt. I made the mistake of relying on them a little too much when I started so maybe this will help a newbie to not make the same mistake.

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  • Hey guess what?
    Im collecting dimes too now, thank you for that information, I think I'll buy that one raw, then send it in, save alittle money.
    Scott Hopkins
    -YN Currently Collecting & Researching Colonial World Coins, Especially Spanish Coins, With a Great Interest in WWII Militaria.

    My Ebay!
  • rlawsharlawsha Posts: 1,033 ✭✭✭
    They are pretty tough to find because there were no mint sets that year (or in 83). They did make some souvenir sets but the quality of those coins is very spotty.
  • rlawsharlawsha Posts: 1,033 ✭✭✭
    Another influence on the prices is the population count for the Full Band (FB) specimens. Here is the MS-66 POP count for FB only:

    1982-P FB 13 with 0 higher

    1982-D FB 11 with 2 higher

    In general I think those numbers are close enough that they shouldn't skew the non FB prices too much.
  • rlawsharlawsha Posts: 1,033 ✭✭✭
    For a real wild ride get involved with 1982 and 1983 Washington prices, those are really nuts.
  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,656 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Gem clad from these years were few and far between which is part of the reason
    that so little got saved. It rarely occured to people to save these coins but when it
    did the quality of the coins was often enough reason to give it up as futile. Th sou-
    nenir sets provide an occasional gem Denver dime but the Phillys are usually marked
    up and normally poorly struck. Some of the Krause sets have some very nice dimes
    in them.

    Generally dimes were saved in a three to one or four to one ratio to quarters. This
    varied a lot but seemed to hold true during '82/'83. Many of these coins came from
    a mere handfull of sources and have likely been checked for gems.

    The '82-P dime is another coin which should have relatively few coins in the under-
    grades.
    Tempus fugit.
  • rlawsharlawsha Posts: 1,033 ✭✭✭
    I have been on a mission to collect PCGS MS-66 specimens from 1982 and 1983 for the P & D dimes and quarters. I have two quarters left to go and they have been very hard to find. Not many sources for these coins but when I do find them I will tuck them away for the future.
  • nwcsnwcs Posts: 13,386 ✭✭✭
    I'm always on the lookout for high quality 82 and 83 coins in raw. But they are hard to come buy. I wonder if the souvenir sets will end up being considered the source for the best examples of the date?
  • FlashFlash Posts: 1,090 ✭✭✭
    I am the proud owner of a 1983-P quarter graded MS66 by PCGS. It was one of the most difficult moderns for my type set to acquire. I also have the 1982 and 1983 special mint sets. Does anybody know the current approximate values for those sets?
    Matt
  • nwcsnwcs Posts: 13,386 ✭✭✭
    I see the souvenir sets selling between 80 and 110 on ebay
  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,656 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Mintages of these sets vary from 10,000 and 20,000. Vast numbers were destroyed
    even before they had acquired much value, and more have been destroyed by Col-
    lectors seeking choice specimens. It will be interesting to see how many are still left
    in a few years. The '82-D had the highest mintage if memory serves but this set con-
    tains lots of choice coins so attrition should be extremely high now. Most '82-D sets
    will contain at least one choice coin and gems aren't too scarce.
    Tempus fugit.
  • FlashFlash Posts: 1,090 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I see the souvenir sets selling between 80 and 110 on ebay >>



    Really? So $25 per set.. one for each mint for both years, totalling $100.. was a pretty good deal I suppose. That's what I paid for them at a show a couple years ago, and they're in their original packaging.
    Matt
  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,656 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The souvenir sets have been extremely hot for the last year or two and are
    becoming increasingly difficult to find cheap. This is especially true for the '82
    and '83 since there is more demand for these. With no regular issue sets there
    is not only a dearth of the coins but also of sets. There are some people who
    collect mint issue sets and these are the only unc sets available for circulating
    coins these years.

    Some of the early dates had extremely low mintages and there is increasing
    competition for these also. Some of the later ones are said to contain speci-
    ally processed coins, but these sets are rarely seen at all.
    Tempus fugit.
  • PlacidPlacid Posts: 11,299 ✭✭✭
    Here is the last ms66 82 to sell at Heritage. Say's a no-p
    No-p
    Sold For: $373.75
    Ended: January 7, 2004
    10:00 PM CST

    Here is the only 82-P I saw, it's a MS67.
    82-p
    Sold For: $87.40
    Ended: March 29, 2004
    10:00 PM CST

    The ms67 sold for a bit less than the pcgs price guide value of $800.
  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,656 ✭✭✭✭✭
    There were an estimated 10,000 of the no-P '82 dimes made and put into circulation
    primarily in the Sandusky, Ohio area. Relatively few actually got into circulation as most
    were found in dimes returned to the bank from the Cedar Point amusement park. There
    was surprisingly little interest in these right from the beginning and the hoardes which
    were amassed at that time are still apparently being dispersed. Despite the little atten-
    tion these recieved, they certainly got a lot more than the '82-P issue. Few people in
    those days really collected dimes and except for the few rolls set aside by a couple deal-
    ers, and the privately assembled mint sets there might be none of these available ex-
    cept the few in the souvenir sets.

    The no-P issue is extremely rare in well struck gem. The linked coin in the Heritage auction
    is a very nice strike for the date. It's in about the top 5% and looks like a steal for the
    price. I personally don't consider it a gem though because of the poor strike.
    Tempus fugit.
  • onlyroosiesonlyroosies Posts: 3,294 ✭✭✭✭
    The 82P and 82D are both $20 - $30 coins in MS66. $75 - $100 in MS67. The PCGS price
    guide has not been updated since the full band designation started. Non FB Clad Roosies
    have a nominal value if there is a sufficient amount graded FB for the same date, as is
    the case for the 82P & 82D.

    Onlyroosies
  • rlawsharlawsha Posts: 1,033 ✭✭✭


    << <i>The 82P and 82D are both $20 - $30 coins in MS66. >>



    Still very tough to find though...

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