OK all you ID experts, what's this?

1960NYGiants

Can't find it in Krause. About 23mm in diameter.




Thanks for your help,
Gene

GDJMSP

Looks like a Wurzburg coin - just don't know which one yet. Still lookin

tbirde56

Interesting! Looks like a German states coin but with elements reminiscent of Austria, Burgundy, ??.
Can you decipher the legends? The pictures aren't quite clear enough.

1960NYGiants

Legends read (I think):

I.THEOD:CAR.D.G.B????
UX.B.M.F.C.L.W(?) E or KP.ET.PRIN?

My 1st impression was Sweden, Norway, Finland, Netherlands

Gene

lordmarcovan

Austrian Netherlands (Liege), 2 liards, 1752. KM158, copper. 2nd ed. cat. $10 VG / $15.00 F / $30 VF / $100 EF. Yours is of course only an AG worth two or three bucks, but it was a fun challenge. Thanks. Had me scratchin' my head for a while!

I was thinkin' Bavaria or Pfalz, due to the coat of arms in the top pic. 'Twas mere luck that I stumbled across it in the book, by looking for copper minors in some of the other places. (Most struck their smaller-value coins in silver or billon, or in copper with a drastically different design.)

tbirde56

I skimmed right past it.

lordmarcovan

This has gotta be the first time I ever beat you to an ID, Brad.

The only other times I've been able to do it were when you were offline.

tbirde56

My mission is being accomplished then: To have others become identification experts or at least get the motivation to practice.

GDJMSP

I feel worse than you do Brad - first place I looked was the Netherlands

1960NYGiants

Thanks Rob,

I thought it was Scandanavian when I 1st saw it. It is not listed in the 1st edition of the 18th century Krause

A guy I work with has been bringing in these coins he got from his dad. This one stumped me. He has a nice group of German Empire minors. I've convinced him to go to the Hartford show with me this Sunday. It will be fun teaching him more about the hobby.

Gene