<< <i>I am pretty upset with myself for falling for this scam. I hate to do this but I don't see myself ever sending coins to forum members again accept for the few I trust completely. mike >>
Mike, I think that would be unfortunate. There were those of us who told people what a sleazeball this guy was when he first showed up here. I'm very sorry that you and a couple of others got taken by him, but I did try to put the word out when he showed up.
I've traded with dozens of other forum members since I have been here in nearly three years, and have never had a problem. But I wouldn't trust a few with a dateless Buffalo nickel, and he is one of them.
Hey don't be mad at yourself - be mad at the rip off artist - What's the status - any news? I will offer to email him if you want - just PM me the details to see if he has one of "your coins" for sale in conjunction with one of his auctions. I think most of the ppl on this forum are honest. I know you are down right now - but GET UP and Get your coins back - Take action! If you are just giving it time, I think time is UP!
I really think this will all come out OK eventually, but that doesn't excuse the guy for causing you all that aggravation.
New collectors, please educate yourself before spending money on coins; there are people who believe that using numismatic knowledge to rip the naïve is what this hobby is all about.
DCAM, you should know that I have no part in this. Well, aside from thinking that Mike's a good guy and wishing that all ends well on his end. As for Pepperdoodles, I have no idea who he is except from what I read around here.
Odd that anyone would think I'd be afraid of knowing the identity of the bad person in question...
I was given the same "nephew in charge" line from an ebay member. He was weeks late in mailing back a return check. After 4 weeks I posted here and Tonelover helped me out. I hope Pepperdoodles isn't out of New Hampshire with the same "useless" nephew.
<< <i>There were those of us who told people what a sleazeball this guy was when he first showed up here. I'm very sorry that you and a couple of others got taken by him, but I did try to put the word out when he showed up. >>
Sure you did K6AZ. This thread dealing with him has 186 posts and not one of them is from you. Plenty from the most volumnous member defending him though.....
If this guy has slammed people before, I wouldn't hesitate to contact the proper authorities. These are YOUR coins. You have a right to know where they are and get them back. If you are being kept from what is yours, it is a felony if it is over 2,000 dollars. Even if he is in the hospital, they will confirm that and do their best to make things right for you. If he isn't in the hospital and this is a scam, the proper authorities will get him with your help and take this jerk off the streets.
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Mike.. Sorry to read about this happening to you. If the person that has your coins is sick at least there is some excuse. I feel like you will get your coins back....nobody wants this much negative publicity from this forum.
<< <i>Mike.. Sorry to read about this happening to you. If the person that has your coins is sick at least there is some excuse. I feel like you will get your coins back....nobody wants this much negative publicity from this forum. >>
I feel if his business is being run by his employee's or himself I am owed at least a response of some kind- without responding I believe no excuse is good enough. I have not named the guilty forum member as of yet but I am getting close to doing so unless I hear from him or his employee's soon. mike
If you used the postal service and you still have the documentation to prove it consider mail fraud action. Nothin like the mention of getting the Feds involved to stir up a little action. Be sure that if you threaten/mention mail fraud and he spaces it off back up your words with ACTION!!
Yes, I am sure to have the postal reciepts- I only throw them out once a year. I am still hoping he will take care of this by getting wind of this thread and I will not have to go any further but my step is getting very close. Also I wanted to thank everyone for their support on this matter as it means alot. mike
Darktone..........Apparently all this creep understands is hosing people over.... Do the right thing and call the Police. They are your coins, and is very strong appears that he has wilfully tried to scam you. Call the Police!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You have a postal reciept but that dosen't prove what was sent. This person could say that you sent them one coin and send you back one coin. Can you prove what coins you sent?
I got a package in the mail and was very surprised to see all but one of my coins returned! The other was supposed to be sent to PCGS and as I got no message in the package or by email or PM I will have to assume it was sent to PCGS as was discussed earlier with the nephew. I guess this thread worked just the way I had hoped and their was no need to name the forum member. By the way the package was dated June 17- two days after this thread was started. mike
<< <i>I guess this thread worked just the way I had hoped and their was no need to name the forum member. >>
Most of us who have been around long enough know who he is. I'm glad you got your coins back, and I suspect that guy is finished doing any deals around here, at least I hope so after this.
<< <i>By the way the package was dated June 17- two days after this thread was started. >>
Amazing how that works. It also is the day I posted the link to report mail fraud. He's had mail fraud charged against him in the past, and he knows it is no joke. That online form is a powerful tool to get transaction partners to make good on a deal, I have used it several times and each time the other party made good.
Awesome. Glad it has worked out for you mostly. Let us know when you get your other coin back. I'm still wondering if you should let the board know who this person is. I for one would appreciate it just so I would know never to deal with this person and never to bid on any of his auctions. He put you through the ringer!
New collectors, please educate yourself before spending money on coins; there are people who believe that using numismatic knowledge to rip the naïve is what this hobby is all about.
Hopefully the outstanding coin will get a nice grade from PCGS and then there will be a happy ending... hope all continues to move along in a positive way.
Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.
I used that Mail Fraud Complaint form on the seller of that MS70FS 1968-D Jefferson I bought on eBay. Did so probably close to 2 months ago. How long does USPS usually take to investigate these filings as I haven't heard word one from either them or the IFCC where I also filed a complaint?
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Everything starts and everything stops at precisely the right time for precisely the right reason.
I got back all but one but this is the coin that was supposed to be sent to PCGS so I just have to wait and see. The forum member has been posting some but still has not had the courtesy to contact me. mike
Most of us who have been around long enough know who he is. I'm glad you got your coins back, and I suspect that guy is finished doing any deals around here, at least I hope so after this.
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<< <i>I am pretty upset with myself for falling for this scam
Mike, I think that would be unfortunate. There were those of us who told people what a sleazeball this guy was when he first showed up here. I'm very sorry that you and a couple of others got taken by him, but I did try to put the word out when he showed up.
I've traded with dozens of other forum members since I have been here in nearly three years, and have never had a problem. But I wouldn't trust a few with a dateless Buffalo nickel, and he is one of them.
Sending my message RIGHT NOW!
Mike- is there any way that we in the forum can help? What would you like from us right now??
New collectors, please educate yourself before spending money on coins; there are people who believe that using numismatic knowledge to rip the naïve is what this hobby is all about.
<< <i>If he's in the southern part of New Jersey, talk to me.
I've got Northern NJ covered then...
Huh?
DCAM, you should know that I have no part in this. Well, aside from thinking that Mike's a good guy and wishing that all ends well on his end. As for Pepperdoodles, I have no idea who he is except from what I read around here.
Odd that anyone would think I'd be afraid of knowing the identity of the bad person in question...
EVP
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How does one get a hater to stop hating?
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<<<<<<<<<<I've got Northern NJ covered then...>>>>>>>>
In that case, I will handle the New Jersey stateline borders...................
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He was weeks late in mailing back a return check. After 4 weeks I posted here and Tonelover helped me out. I hope Pepperdoodles isn't out of New Hampshire with the same "useless" nephew.
roadrunner
I just read your link.
I'm speechless.
<< <i>There were those of us who told people what a sleazeball this guy was when he first showed up here. I'm very sorry that you and a couple of others got taken by him, but I did try to put the word out when he showed up. >>
Sure you did K6AZ. This thread dealing with him has 186 posts and not one of them is from you. Plenty from the most volumnous member defending him though.....
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If this guy has slammed people before, I wouldn't hesitate to contact the proper authorities. These are YOUR coins. You have a right to know where they are and get them back. If you are being kept from what is yours, it is a felony if it is over 2,000 dollars. Even if he is in the hospital, they will confirm that and do their best to make things right for you. If he isn't in the hospital and this is a scam, the proper authorities will get him with your help and take this jerk off the streets.
-BK
<< <i>EVP, just remember this...
I remember that thread now. I was up late at night and remember your graphic and it gave me the creeps!
All i have to say is WOW !!!!! I thought i have had some 'discussions' here but they pale in comparison !
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<< <i>EVP, just remember this...
I remember that thread now. I was up late at night and remember your graphic and it gave me the creeps!
Jason, you'll have to blame Russ for that image giving you the creeps. He created it, and I just lifted it.
Ken
<< <i>Dcam who are you? How come you have never been willing to I.D. yourself? Pepperdoodles was man enough what about you? >>
DCAM'S EBAY FEEDBACK
Hey, look at that, he got a negative today for not paying. Imagine that.
<< <i>Dcam who are you? How come you have never been willing to I.D. yourself? Pepperdoodles was man enough what about you? >>
Doops spent about 6 months working on that, but couldn't come through.
Then DCam was identified as Jeff somebody, and nobody cared
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Never paid and never responded to emails. Seller katperedo( 1334) Apr-25-04 08:45 2220909112
Item Not As Described. No Communication. Caution!!!!! Buyer saint_bloodwind( 136) Nov-19-03 09:42 3053053716
Reply by bumperone: Prompt delivery of EXACT coin pictured obv/reverse. Multi-e-mails at every step Dec-02-03 22:30
No reply to emails and payment never received. Over 30 days since close. Seller certifiedmoderncoins( 2705) Mar-04-03 10:02 3004278710
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HUGE spot not mentioned. Photo of rev. not even close to coin recieved. Beware! Buyer redhotcherrystone( 12)
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Money was sent I have not received card An Blatent Liar!!!!! ryanc8705pn0( 1 ) Feb-05-01 13:03 1108270383
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Follow-up by keydates: Did not want to return coin, wanted refund of excess postage. He refused.
Reply by bumperone: Upon complaint-offered this THREATENING lawyer a complete refund F/return of coi
BAD BID DELAYLEFT FEEDBACK W/OUT BUYING ITEM LOOKS RETURNED UNSATISFACTORY docoinbob( 47) Sep-24-00 19:21 405489578
Reply by bumperone: DESC. coin PR68DCAM,actual PR66!AGREES cancel,then submits NEG.STRANGEST SELLER!
you had 7 days to return coin if you were unhappy maybe thats why you have 6 neg jerryjohnson7izw( 342) May-24-00 14:59 324958337
Reply by bumperone: SAME Day Pymt!GEM Brillt PR descr.@Cameo-I get a NEG??! Didn't even get KISSED!!
BEWARE!! AVOID THIS BIDDER-I WISH I HAD! NO CLASS AT ALL! ctnumisaut75j3(private)
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I said I made a mistake you moron. godzilla771( 5 ) Feb-21-00 21:49
IF YOU LET THIS GUY RIP YOU OFF IT'S YOUR FAULT bhooff6rb7( 87) Nov-07-99 12:45
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WAS HIGH BIDDER..REFUSED TO HONOR BID OR ANSWER E-MAILS!! DON'T WASTE YOUR TIME! onestopsportshop( 856) Oct-21-99 19:00 163556434
Follow-up by onestopsportshop: They were clearly visible on the scan. This is a pcgs ms65 coin. BAD bidder F--
Reply by bumperone: "4 small spots" were actually 4 big Carbon spots! Bad coin.
SOLD ME OVERGRADED JUNK THAN SAYS I HAVE HISTORY OF WELCHING ON BIDS. SHOW ME bhooff6rb7( 87) Oct-21-99 18:52
Reply by bumperone: BGHT PCGS MS-65 WL with a scan- welch, then return. Had done this before on 5/98
Failed to honor high bid, no response to emails. wrclark( 2383) Oct-14-99 13:49 133309171
Reply by bumperone: Poor ol' Bill can't remember who he e-mailed! Had he sent mess. to right person,
bid on item and never heard from again, really bad for ebay traderbill( 1347) Aug-25-99 13:41 132879003
Reply by bumperone: Sent ck. pymt. 2 DAYS after auction. NO COINS REC'D! Fires of a Neg. Fdback. BUM
RECEVED OVERGRADED COIN SAYS ALL SALES ARE FINAL NO REFUNDS E-MAIL ME FOR DETAIL bhooff6rb7( 87) Aug-11-99 00:54 128947314
Reply by bumperone: Tried to welch on bid, THEN wants to return coin-he has a HISTORY of this. LOUSY
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Reply by bumperone: I sent 9 of his coins to ICG for cert.-NOT 1, not even 1, made his GRADE!! F-
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<< <i>Mike.. Sorry to read about this happening to you. If the person that has your coins is sick at least there is some excuse. I feel like you will get your coins back....nobody wants this much negative publicity from this forum. >>
I feel if his business is being run by his employee's or himself I am owed at least a response of some kind- without responding I believe no excuse is good enough. I have not named the guilty forum member as of yet but I am getting close to doing so unless I hear from him or his employee's soon. mike
~KP
This person could say that you sent them one coin and send you back one coin.
Can you prove what coins you sent?
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<< <i>I guess this thread worked just the way I had hoped and their was no need to name the forum member. >>
Most of us who have been around long enough know who he is. I'm glad you got your coins back, and I suspect that guy is finished doing any deals around here, at least I hope so after this.
<< <i>By the way the package was dated June 17- two days after this thread was started. >>
Amazing how that works. It also is the day I posted the link to report mail fraud. He's had mail fraud charged against him in the past, and he knows it is no joke. That online form is a powerful tool to get transaction partners to make good on a deal, I have used it several times and each time the other party made good.
I'm still wondering if you should let the board know who this person is. I for one would appreciate it just so I would know never to deal with this person and never to bid on any of his auctions. He put you through the ringer!
New collectors, please educate yourself before spending money on coins; there are people who believe that using numismatic knowledge to rip the naïve is what this hobby is all about.
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I used that Mail Fraud Complaint form on the seller of that MS70FS 1968-D Jefferson I bought on eBay. Did so probably close to 2 months ago. How long does USPS usually take to investigate these filings as I haven't heard word one from either them or the IFCC where I also filed a complaint?
David
Most of us who have been around long enough know who he is. I'm glad you got your coins back, and I suspect that guy is finished doing any deals around here, at least I hope so after this.
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