"Learn to grade" (or "How I am getting spanked on the message boards across the stree
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One thing that really irks me, that I wish I could respond to, is being told that one (presumably meaning me) should "learn to grade." While that is easy to say, and everybody says it over here all the time, it is not easily achieved. It is not like learning the alphabet for my five year old son, nor is it like learning human anatomy in medical school. Grading is subjective, an art, not a science. One person's AU-58 is another's MS-61, and neither person is necessarily right or wrong. Experts get slapped down by the grading services all the time. They also slip doggy coins into unrealistically high grade holders all the time. Telling me to "learn to grade" is like telling my five year old son to learn right from wrong or asking a medical student to learn when it is right to "pull the plug."
One thing that really irks me, that I wish I could respond to, is being told that one (presumably meaning me) should "learn to grade." While that is easy to say, and everybody says it over here all the time, it is not easily achieved. It is not like learning the alphabet for my five year old son, nor is it like learning human anatomy in medical school. Grading is subjective, an art, not a science. One person's AU-58 is another's MS-61, and neither person is necessarily right or wrong. Experts get slapped down by the grading services all the time. They also slip doggy coins into unrealistically high grade holders all the time. Telling me to "learn to grade" is like telling my five year old son to learn right from wrong or asking a medical student to learn when it is right to "pull the plug."
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-YN Currently Collecting & Researching Colonial World Coins, Especially Spanish Coins, With a Great Interest in WWII Militaria.
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There are gross misgrading errors but on a one grade difference, sometimes two, you can split hairs..
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Russ, NCNE
My only point was if NGC is "allowing" dealers to capitalize on over-graded coins then PCGS allows buyers (dealers or collectors) to capitalize on under-graded coins. Misgrading, whether it's over or under graded, is still a disservice to the market. Saying a TPG is somehow "better" because they undergrade is absurd. Consistant grading is really the only thing that matters.
jom
<< <i>It's been a couple weeks since I looked in over at sleepy hollow. I see it's the SSDD. On the plus side, it just took me about five minutes to catch up on everything new that's been posted since I was there last. >>
Russ, I understand your post is just in fun but look at it this way...
I came from a family of 8 kids and rarely was afforded the individual attention all of us needed as we grew up. Maybe that's why I appreciate the NGC forum more then PCGS. Too many times, I have lurked here just to watch as "hyenas attack a kitten" or one of their own. Too much like my dysfunctional personal family. Sometimes we bite each other, but we never tear each other to shreds!
David
<< <i>Too much like my dysfunctional personal family. >>
Hell, my family is the paradigm for dysfunctional. Entire teams of psychologists study us and shake their heads in wonderment. Many a Doctoral thesis has been written about us - most of which received a failing grade simply because the Professor thought it had to be fiction. Probably why I fit in here so well.
Russ, NCNE
We dont savage people arbitrarily, we have a secret lottery to determine whose turn it is to
be enlightened thru pain and suffering. We are probably the nicest sadists that exist on the planet.
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