Opinions on these 2 Toned Kennedys ?

ss350camaro

Picked these up recently.
#1

#2

FC57Coins

From the pics they look AT - hope I'm wrong

JxnBoy

They look a little fishy to me too, especially the first one.

Russ

Shake 'n Bake.

Russ, NCNE

Placid

<< <i>Picked these up recently. >>



Did you burn your fingers?

PCBUM

They look AT to me..........

FC57Coins

Doug:

If you look at the pictures below, you will notice that the hue and intensity of the color is different. Also remember that there are generally three sources for toned Kennedies. They are either endroll toned, album toned, or they've toned in a commemorative/rememberance/advertising holder of some sort. If they're album toned, they will tend to have the same kind of toning pattern on both sides, very seldomly will they be one bright color on one side and a different one on the other. If they're endroll toned, they will have vibrant color on one side, and almost universally white on the other - or maybe a little peripheral toning. The same applies to ones coming from a holder generally, though the toning may come through more intensely on the other side, depending on the exposure the coin has seen.

Steve27

AT done with sulpher.

ss350camaro

I am also 99% sure they're AT. I intentionally purchased these with that in mind as a learning / reference tool.

Thanks for the input

smprfi

#1 Looks AT
#2 Looks real to me.It looks like it toned in the celiphane.I have one with the same streaking effect but not as vivid.
There was a hole in my celiphane wrap.

ss350camaro

<< <i>#2 Looks real to me.It looks like it toned in the celiphane.I have one with the same streaking effect but not as vivid. >>



'67s weren't packaged in cello

nwcs

Pics are At

nwcs

Second one is clearly AT. The colors are off, they crawl from field to device and over, abrupt end on forehead, and the way it crawls the rim.

Rob790

AT from CENTSLES. All of his AT stuff has the same look, kind of on the dark side. Not the best AT stuff but not the worst examples either.

FC57Coins

There were no mint issued coins in cellophane holders in 1967. The only coins issued were 1967 SMS sets in hard plastic holders. Generally silver coins that become contaminated from pin holes in mint cello holders tend to have an spot of color (generally dark blue) and then varying colors from there. Generally you don't see almost identical coloration patterns on the obverse and reverse as that second coin shows.

Russellp23

If you look at the pictures below, you will notice that the hue and intensity of the color is different. Also remember that there are generally three sources for toned Kennedies. They are either endroll toned, album toned, or they've toned in a commemorative/rememberance/advertising holder of some sort. If they're album toned, they will tend to have the same kind of toning pattern on both sides, very seldomly will they be one bright color on one side and a different one on the other. If they're endroll toned, they will have vibrant color on one side, and almost universally white on the other - or maybe a little peripheral toning. The same applies to ones coming from a holder generally, though the toning may come through more intensely on the other side, depending on the exposure the coin has seen.

Great reference photos FC57Coins

Russ

<< <i>Generally silver coins that become contaminated from pin holes in mint cello holders tend to have an spot of color (generally dark blue) and then varying colors from there. Generally you don't see almost identical coloration patterns on the obverse and reverse as that second coin shows. >>



Pin hole toners:





Russ, NCNE

FC57Coins

<< <i>Pin hole toners: >>




Clarification - I was referring to business strike coins - proofs do tone different - but only old geeks collect proofs

Russ

<< <i>but only old geeks collect proofs >>



I just ran the word "geeks" through Pug Translator 2.0, and it came back as "sophisticated numismatists."

Russ, NCNE

FC57Coins

<< <i>I just ran the word "geeks" through Pug Translator 2.0, and it came back as "sophisticated numismatists." >>




Yeah - Dat's de ticket

stman

Just passing through gentlemen.

FC57Coins

<< <i>Just passing through gentlemen. >>




You just can't stay away can ya

nankraut

IMHO...bunsen burner job

Russ

Here's another example of a pin-hole toned proof.

Russ, NCNE