Something that Happened to me today/Frankies

Purple73

Hello Folks,

I was in my local coin shop last week and saw a Frankie that caught my eye. I didn't have my loupe( I was buying some accessories at the time) with me nor did I have enough greenbacks so I passed on looking at it. I went in today to look at that frankie(which was still there) and see how that coin would grade. I had my loupe and greenbacks with me in case it was an excellent coin. Unfortunately that coin had some problems with it and I didn't think it would grade over 63. The dealer there said to me " what are ya looking for? " I said " I like that 58-D but its not quite what I'm looking for. So he said to me " well here is this 58-d I got from a roll and it's a really nice lusterous coin". So I strolled over to check it out. He wanted $8.00 for it. I declined the coin and he told me I didn't know what I was looking at.

Now the Obverse of this coin was truely awsome. The belmishes were so small and there wasn't one single ding on it.

The Reverse ( and man these hit me like a brick) had two dings right smack square in the bell. These were quite large and I would say they were at least 1/16" to an 1/8" wide, long and deep. There were also some small hits to the left of the bell in the field. The bell lines were not full at all and the kind of the weird thing was the eagles feathers were not clear like some of the others I have seen.

I know this series suffers from weak strikes and heavy bag marks. I am wondering if I was being a tad too picky. But I know what I like and those 2 big dings and small hits in the field is not something I'm looking for.

The OBVERSE: As far as grading it would go 64 easy I wouldn't think it would go 65 because the strike of the coin was weak the small curls in front of the hair were almost non existant.

The Reverse I say went 63 at Best. I know they dont like huge dings on these coins or any coins at this caliber for that matter. Small scratches you can get away with if they are non distracting. Big dings, no way on a 64. I'm looking for full bell lines for my set and this one didn't have them. The bell lines were there of course but not as full as I would like. I know I could get a better coin than this.

In the end, He told me that putting a set like I want would cost at least 1000.00 bucks and since I didn't think that 58-D was good enough, I didn't have a clue what I was talking about.

Question: Am I being too picky?

Thanks For reading!
PURPLE!

Weekend news: Went to the coin show on Saturday and picked up a really nice 52-D in MS 64FBL. It's a very beautiful coin.

mgoodm3

No. Buy what you want not what the dealer wants.

jonesy

That guy was an arse.

JrGMan2004

<< <i>No. Buy what you want not what the dealer wants. >>

I agree... big hits like that would be a distractant for me, and I know my eye would be drawn back to it every time I looked at the coin...

nOoBiEeE

<< <i>Question: Am I being too picky? >>



NO, it's your money and your decision.

Bikingnut

Only you know what you want. If the coin wasn't good enough then the dealer shouldn't question it. Telling you you don't know what your talking about is bad business in my opinion. When I look at Washington's for my set, I know what i want. If the dealer told me I don't know what i'm talking about, I'd shop elsewhere.

Shamika

Sounds to me like the dealer is a premium quality ASSS-HOLE!

Don't let him question what it is you want. You guys can hagle over the price, but not the qrade.

The coin doesn't meet your expectations. End of story!

Makarovii

<< <i>No. Buy what you want not what the dealer wants. >>



Exactly. At the last LB show I was looking at a few Brit coins at one table and failed to find something I liked. This dealer also told me I didn't know what I was looking for so I walked away. Funny thing is I found what I was looking for, at a better price to boot, about six tables away!

maddogale

Sounds like another deekhead dealer story! Where do these goobers come from? Take your money elsewhere, that loser needs to "sleep with the fishes" It's your collection, not his, besides, how in the H*ll does he know what you are looking for? And if the set does cost you $1K, what's it to him? What an ASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!

ksteelheader

Your money, your call! I have a dealer that cringes when I walk in.....Ken

rainbowroosie

No, you are NOT being too picky....indeed, you are not being picky enough...you can find really nice frankies if you are patient.

MFH

No you are not being too picky, buy only what you like and ignore the rude comments of someone who doesn't know his a$$ from a hole in the door.

Most smaller dealers don't have the caliber of coins you are seeking and yet to be fair to the dealer in question, its only an $8.00 coin, you can't expect perfection for $8.00. The only trouble with that is you'll still keep looking for a nicer coin, and will loose money on the coin the dealer was trying to shove down your throat when you try and sell it later.

Always stick to your guns, buy only what YOU like.

Bear

When you buy a coin, marks and distractions that you notice on the coin

will certainly be noticed by others when you go to sell that coin. Buy only what you like.

Then, if you make a mistake, as we all do, you have only yourself to blame.