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1916 D --Take a look.

fcloudfcloud Posts: 12,133 ✭✭✭✭
Take a look at this auciton and compare the coin to the one shown below. Let me know what you think.

1916 D F 12 on ebay

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President, Racine Numismatic Society 2013-2014; Variety Resource Dimes; See 6/8/12 CDN for my article on Winged Liberty Dimes; Ebay

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  • DAMDAM Posts: 2,410 ✭✭
    Are you comparing because the one on ebay is graded the same or higher than yours, and yours looks better?

    I would say yours is nicer.


    Dan
  • rainbowroosierainbowroosie Posts: 4,875 ✭✭✭✭
    The ebay coin is overgraded.
    "You keep your 1804 dollar and 1822 half eagle -- give me rainbow roosies in MS68."
    rainbowroosie April 1, 2003
  • fcloudfcloud Posts: 12,133 ✭✭✭✭
    Dan,

    Not complaining. I only had to pay for a "GOOD." I think I did very well, and mine is about the best G6 I have seen.

    President, Racine Numismatic Society 2013-2014; Variety Resource Dimes; See 6/8/12 CDN for my article on Winged Liberty Dimes; Ebay

  • haletjhaletj Posts: 2,192
    Let me get this straight? The one on ebay is a F-12 and the one pictured is a G-6? And pcgs is respectable, how?

    By the way, on the ebay one, look at the hairlines reverse obv field? Is that just marks, die polish, cleaning?
  • goose3goose3 Posts: 11,471 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Let me get this straight? The one on ebay is a F-12 and the one pictured is a G-6? And pcgs is respectable, how?

    By the way, on the ebay one, look at the hairlines reverse obv field? Is that just marks, die polish, cleaning? >>




    look at the hairlines all over that thing. The image certainly makes it appear blatantly overgraded. Yours is MUCH nicer regardless of what the plastic says.
  • sumduncesumdunce Posts: 1,247 ✭✭✭✭
    I know what I would do with your coin. Send it in for a regrade. I would estimate the details to be in the VG10 to F12 range. Based on what I can see in the image the vertical lines on the fasces are weak (thus the VG10 estimate) but the cross bands do show (thus the F12 estimate).
  • FairlanemanFairlaneman Posts: 10,424 ✭✭✭✭✭
    One of these is OVERGRADED and it IS NOT the one that is pictured when the thread is opened.

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    Ken
  • Steve27Steve27 Posts: 13,274 ✭✭✭
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    No way this is an F12.
    "It's far easier to fight for principles, than to live up to them." Adlai Stevenson
  • Steve27Steve27 Posts: 13,274 ✭✭✭
    If that's an F then my 21-D must be a VF:


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    "It's far easier to fight for principles, than to live up to them." Adlai Stevenson
  • CocoinutCocoinut Posts: 2,512 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Tony,

    The coin you show should probably be a PCGS VG. The only PCGS graded Mercs I've seen in quantity are the '16-D and the '42/'41 overdates, but it seems that they are very generous when grading those dates. They're frequently given as much as a full grade higher than what I would rate them. I learned to grade using the old Brown & Dunn book, and later the ANA guide and Photograde. I don't have them with me at the moment, but if I remember correctly, a Good had to have full rims, a VG had to show half of the vertical lines in the fasces, and a Fine had to show ALL of the vertical lines, although they'd be weak. Am I alone in believing these to be the proper standards?

    Jim
    Countdown to completion of my Mercury Set: 1 coin. My growing Lincoln Set: Finally completed!
  • FairlanemanFairlaneman Posts: 10,424 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    What a load some of this TPG grading is at times.

    Ken
  • fcloudfcloud Posts: 12,133 ✭✭✭✭
    Ken/Jim,

    Based on the 1921 F12, 1921-D VG10, 1925-D VG10, that I have had, my coin fit right in with the VG coins from that group. I had assumed they were tougher on the 1916-D becuase of rarity, or that maybe they were loose on the less rare coins. I don't why the coin on ebay is graded too high, but it makes me wonder if it depends on who sends the coin in. With the lack of sticks on the ebay coin, I would think that coin should not have graded so high, but then again my coin is probably undergraded, so it may skew the opinions here even more. In any case, the coin on ebay will get "F" money, and if I listed mine, it would only get "G" money. Some people buy the coin others buy the plastic.

    I would much rather pay for an under graded coin than an over graded one!

    (Hey, Ken, we took the Chevelle out for a ride tonight!)

    Tony

    President, Racine Numismatic Society 2013-2014; Variety Resource Dimes; See 6/8/12 CDN for my article on Winged Liberty Dimes; Ebay

  • DeepCoinDeepCoin Posts: 2,781 ✭✭✭
    If the coin on Ebay goes for under F money, would it be a good strategy to send it into PCGS for a review with a copy of the various standards and see if you could get it regraded and a rebate, thus reducing what you have in the coin and making it a bargin? Of course PCGS may just say it is what it is.
    Retired United States Mint guy, now working on an Everyman Type Set.
  • fcloudfcloud Posts: 12,133 ✭✭✭✭
    The coin went for $1725.00

    President, Racine Numismatic Society 2013-2014; Variety Resource Dimes; See 6/8/12 CDN for my article on Winged Liberty Dimes; Ebay

  • TWQGTWQG Posts: 3,145 ✭✭
    Eight digit, bar code on the front. That's where they're all headedimageimageimage
  • Ebay one is over graded should be a VG-8. Fcloud, yours should be F-12. The 21, should be a F-15. Reference back to David Lange's complete guide. Its pretty accurate for showing grades.
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