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1856 Flying Eagle Snow-3 graded AU-53 by PCGS!

PCGS, for at least the last year, has been grading the original 1856 FEs as Proof-### instead of Mint State, irrespective of whether the Coin is a Snow-3, one of the 600 original examples given to members of Congress in late 1856, or a Snow-9, the 1500-2000 restrikes issued in 1859-1860.

The reason, I believe, and I'm not alone in this belief, is that PCGS has graded Mint state as Proof and Proof (restrikes) as MS based solely on surface characteristics rather than the diagnostics, which are NOT too difficult to fathom.Too avid liabilit issues, IMHO, they have been simply calling all Proofs, as NGC has done from the start.

Rick Snow, for a very modest fee, will issue an attribution card with the coin's photo on said card, designating the variety and stating whether the coin is a S-3 original or a restrike. Quite a bargain, actually.

Now, on a raw coin I just submitted, PCGS has graded this original AU-53, as they should, on this S-3, rather than Proof-53 which they would have done about a month ago. I hope this signals a welcome change in their policy regarding this popular coin.


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Ira Stein
Dealer/old-time collector

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  • BigEBigE Posts: 6,949 ✭✭✭
    Agreed, but could I see that toilet seat picture just one more time, sorry, but I just had to ask------BigE
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  • << <i>Agreed, but could I see that toilet seat picture just one more time, sorry, but I just had to ask------BigE >>



    In a word, no!

    Ira
    Dealer/old-time collector
  • tjkilliantjkillian Posts: 5,578 ✭✭✭
    Congratulations on getting PCGS to finally see the light. Looks like a very nice coin. Still, I consider it a very popular pattern, but a pattern never the less. Some day I 'd like to own one.

    Tom
    Tom

  • orevilleoreville Posts: 12,117 ✭✭✭✭✭
    IRA: Great!!!!
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  • goose3goose3 Posts: 11,471 ✭✭✭
    Ira
    I sent my AU50 in for a reholder and it came back properly holdered as AU50. This too has been in the past month.

  • northcoinnorthcoin Posts: 4,987 ✭✭✭✭✭
    And so is the coin for sale now and if so what is the damage?
  • orevilleoreville Posts: 12,117 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I am wondering if PCGS is easing up on the circulated versions of the 1856 FE cent and not the mint/proof versions?????????
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  • Ira check the population report from ngc They had graded them mint state until about 5 years ago
    They had put three MS-64 S-3 coin that were in proof holders in mint state holders for me
    COLLECTOR AND DEALER FOR 45 YEARS LIKES MINT STATE MERCS AND WALKERS I HELP BUILD REGISTRY SETS.
  • Have a PCGS 1856 S-3 MS-65 in a PROOF-65 holder with Rick Snows attribution card and photo
    Price 50 K

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    COLLECTOR AND DEALER FOR 45 YEARS LIKES MINT STATE MERCS AND WALKERS I HELP BUILD REGISTRY SETS.


  • << <i>And so is the coin for sale now and if so what is the damage? >>



    It was sold within two hours of my receiving it. I wasn't trying to sell it here....just wanted to comment upon what may signify a change in PCGS policy with respect to
    Snow-3s.

    Ira
    Dealer/old-time collector
  • MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭
    I'm glad to hear that PCGS is giving the S3 a MS designation finally. It was about two months ago that they were not going to do this. Good to hear that they have seen the light.
    Mike Hayes
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  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,438 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Still remains to be seen what the policy is for unc. 1856's. Eagle Eye - what do you know??

    Ira - nice loking coin.

    Merc - I'll give you proof 65 money for it....imageimage
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