and is it over the SMR for a PSA 9? If not then you did good, since it would easily appear to cross to a PSA 9, but if youpaid a lot more, then you might have over paid, because it might not be a 10 if crossed over....
cspeier1 - Nice card! I do not think that you overpaid. That would likely cross over to PSA or SGC, or whomever, if you decided to go that route and if it does not who cares? It looks great in the holder, it probably compares well to any GEM MINT Marino rookie on the market.
Abe, NO THANKS on starting a Marino set!! I'm working on a project for both of us. I've found and located some Dorsett PSA 10 7-11 discs east and west. I've also sent some to be graded. When I get the details worked out I'll give you a email..
Also, aro13.. Thanks for the kind words. I'll probably never try to cross it.. I also like the holder..
Chad, WOW! Keep me posted on the Dorsett discs! I really thought that the Dorsett registry would be boring but it's turned out to be more fun than any of my others! The competition adds to it also.
Abe
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There was a thread a while back talking about GAI 9's crossing to PSA 10 holders. I think GAI does a nice job, I've seen some cards in their 9 holders that I definitely would consider cracking and resubmitting to another company. Their holders are nice and I like the fact the put the indicative data on the top too so you can see what card it is without pulling it out. That's kinda cool, though it doesn't always seem to line up right. Their holders are classy looking, I think. Put it in your private collection and let it sit.
I concur. Do not touch it. Im now "swaying" to send my 123 to GAI. I have one (actually 2) that I got from a set I bought off (sorry cant remember who) a user here. One is GREAT looking. But I get my hopes high.........
I might agree, but if PSA grades this card a 9 then go back and click on my PSA 9 Elway. If that card is a PSA 9, the guy who graded it was smokeing crack.. Please go back and look..
I just got a PSA 8 94 SP Arod off of ebay. the one I sent in had the usual small amount of chipping on the back top edge. I got an 8. I sold it for $100 in KC a couple weeks ago. This PSA 8 I got off ebay I expected to be just as nice, or at least close. (I paid $73) I sincerely believe if I cracked this card out it would be a PSA 6 at best. Every corner is missing color on the back, the top edge is chipped just like mine was, and the front shows visible corner wear. Sometimes you compare and it just doesn't make sense. I shoulda gone the "crack & resubmit" route with mine instead.
I always hate when you compare similar grades on similar cards and there is a huge discrepency.
Sometimes the hardest thing though is being critical of something you own.
Keep it in the 9.5 GAI holder and when there stuff starts making a push on the $$$ like BGS/PSA/SGC then think about selling it and picking up one graded by someone else if you want. You can't go wrong having a card like that, especially in a 9.5 holder that isn't from PRO.
sorry to sound harsh, but that elway is AWFUL!!! if that elway is a 9 then that marino should cross to a psa 13! i would keep it just like it is. good pickup, and i'd search for a gai 9.5 elway.
I have had GAI 9.5's cross to 9's, and occasionally to 10's, but it depends on the card. I agree that you are taking a chance if you cross it, but I wouldn't pay more than a PSA 9 price for any other companies 9 (or 9.5), and often much less. I do think this card is a nice example of a tough card, but jrinck hits some key points that might relegate this to PSA 9 status.
Your Elway PSA 9 is a freaking joke. That card does NOT look like it's Mint and I bet if you send it in again it will get an 8. Your GAI 9.5 looks like a Gem Mint by any grading standards and whatever you paid it's worth it. As many people say...buy the card not the case. Your GAI 9.5 looks like one of the cleanest examples I've seen in awhile...should crossover without a problem.
I TOTALLY agree on the Elway. The story behind that card is crazy. When I first joined PSA I sent this card with my six submissions. I was down to the end and really had nothing else I wanted to send. I broke this card out of a SGC86, YES SGC86 holder. When I received the grades I was floored. I keep this card around for one purpose only. TO REMIND ME TO BUY THE CARD NOT THE HOLDER... I've had many chances to sell it, but feel terrible. Someday I'm going too, I want a Gem Mint of Elway also. I'm just not sure how to go about it. It's really bad when YOU know it's overgraded. It still will bring PSA 9 money but it's only a PSA 7 card. What would you do?? Sell it as is.. Tell everyone the SGC story? Not worry about it and let the next person buy the card not the holder? I value everyones opinion on both cards. If I didn't want the truth, I probably shouldn't of asked!!
Always wondered that myself. PSA says "9". There is no way it was "cracked" and switched. Yet it is obviously lower then a 9.
Send it back for regrade? pffft not at a cost to you. Be honest? Hell you are why should you have to 2nd guess PSA? (im joking BTW)
If PSA says it is a 9 a 9 it is.........
Again with my hopes but I have a nice looking Elway. Was going to send it SGA or GAI but will send it PSA. Go figure. I will scan, photo graph and take an xray of it before sending.
Sending this week will let you know the results before and after.
PSA is a professional company and the grader that day felt it was a PSA 9 (maybe forgot his glasses....near Christmas etc). Either way if that was my card and I was selling it I would put a scan up (not as large as yours probably) and not mention a thing about the card being a SGC 86. I've had plenty of cards that were overgraded as well as undergraded. You as a collector should make the choice to regrade. If the buyer of your PSA 9 Elway isn't satified with the grade it's not your fault, they can take it up with PSA who can buy the card back if it's overgraded.
I've just had 4 glasses of wine (hiccup!), and that Elway is beginning to look like a PSA 9 to me. That Marino is a 9.5 by any standard! Keep it as it is. It's gorgeous. One thing to keep in mind; that card doesn't exhibit perfect smooth edges so it's been untouched if you know what I mean. That is how it's suppose to look. Great card.
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what did you pay for it?
and is it over the SMR for a PSA 9?
If not then you did good, since it would easily
appear to cross to a PSA 9,
but if youpaid a lot more, then you might have over paid,
because it might not be a 10 if crossed over....
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That card is beautiful. I really think you should start working on a Marino registry set and sell me all your Dorsett's that I'm lacking!
Abe
Also, aro13.. Thanks for the kind words. I'll probably never try to cross it.. I also like the holder..
Chad
WOW! Keep me posted on the Dorsett discs! I really thought that the Dorsett registry would be boring but it's turned out to be more fun than any of my others! The competition adds to it also.
Abe
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Things I notice:
1. Right edge: Some minor chips.
2. Lower-right corner: A bit soft.
3. Blue "QB" triangle under the word "Dolphins": Some snow, including a big snowfake.
4. Just above Marino's helmet: Some lint, or something... hopefully not a scratch.
Chad
I always hate when you compare similar grades on similar cards and there is a huge discrepency.
Sometimes the hardest thing though is being critical of something you own.
Keep it in the 9.5 GAI holder and when there stuff starts making a push on the $$$ like BGS/PSA/SGC then think about selling it and picking up one graded by someone else if you want. You can't go wrong having a card like that, especially in a 9.5 holder that isn't from PRO.
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Always wondered that myself. PSA says "9". There is no way it was "cracked" and switched. Yet it is obviously lower then a 9.
Send it back for regrade? pffft not at a cost to you. Be honest? Hell you are why should you have to 2nd guess PSA? (im joking BTW)
If PSA says it is a 9 a 9 it is.........
Again with my hopes but I have a nice looking Elway. Was going to send it SGA or GAI but will send it PSA. Go figure. I will scan, photo graph and take an xray of it before sending.
Sending this week will let you know the results before and after.
Keep it as it is. It's gorgeous.
One thing to keep in mind; that card doesn't exhibit perfect smooth edges so it's been untouched if you know what I mean. That is how it's suppose to look. Great card.
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