What do you think?

Bighurt4 · May 21, 2004 8:47AM

I am in receipt of an unopened 1984 Donruss wax box from Kruk Cards. I opened one in January that was great (3 Mattingly's, 2 Gwynn's, 1 Ryan, 2 Boggs, 1 Rickey, 2 Rose, 1 Ripken). Do I even out or continue '84 glory?

Brent

WinPitcher · May 21, 2004 1:50PM

open it on some rainy day when you have nothing else to do....they are some nice cards. best donruss of the 80z anyway.

kruk cards are pretty good too...

joestalin · May 21, 2004 2:21PM

I predict 10 Ron Kittles

JS

Bighurt4 · May 21, 2004 2:24PM

Thanks Joe, I was actually hoping some 04 Heritage autos would mysteriously appear.

Brent

kuhlmann · May 21, 2004 2:25PM

Now that was funny brent!! no offense joe stalin!! but i got a laugh out of that!

joestalin · May 21, 2004 2:51PM

Brent...if you are looking for heritage autos don't buy any 2004 heritage retail! LOL

kulmann...speaking of heritage autos...you got something to tell us?

Kevin

Bighurt4 · May 21, 2004 2:55PM

Yeah, I was for real about the autos. I am trying to put together the ultimate Master set. I have all SP's, Base cards, Chromes and a good start on G/U. It's those darn autos that are killing me.

Brent

joestalin · May 21, 2004 2:57PM

Brent

WOW I didn't know, I have a double of Newcombe if you need it, I will also have Corky V auto
in a few days. Do you need black refs and /555 too? LMK

Kevin

Bighurt4 · May 21, 2004 3:12PM

No, I am cherry picking the Black and Refractors and am not that committed yet. I have too many irons in the fire right now.

I just sent in a 181 card submission loaded with Frank Thomas' for my Basic and Master sets along with some Clemens, Ryans and misc cards for sale. I am opening a vendor case of '86T to grade (adding it to the cards I picked out of an '89F 12 box cello case). I bought the '84D wax box because someone bid up to just below me to try to barely outbid me, so I put in my final bid with a few seconds to go. I still got it for much lower than my last box cost me, but I was hoping for more of a deal. I also completed the regular set of Cracker Jacks and want to put together the sticker and blue insert sets. Thank goodness I won $1400 at the Beau Rivage a couple of weeks ago or I would be in real trouble.

Whew,
Brent

Stone193 · May 21, 2004 3:22PM

<< <i>I am trying to put together the ultimate Master set. >>

Brent
You win the lottery?!?! Between me and Stalin, we could probably give you a good start on the #/555 set - now the #/55 - that would be a mega challenge! If you are including that one - you are my hero!
LMK, if I can be of any help - BTW, I haven't forgotten you on that big hurt donruss elite - just haven't found it yet.
Mike

kuhlmann · May 21, 2004 3:26PM

Joe stalin
yeah i forgot been real busy!! bought a retail box at target again for 29.99$ and finally got an auto!! its on ebay right now. bill glynn #d 38/55 also in the box a fred mcgriff bat card and 16 sp's 2 chrome curt schilling's one /555 and /1955! plus a then and now a flashback # f6 and a new age ichiro! for 29.99$ thats a bargain!! the 16 sp's one was the arod throwing helton purple jersey griff jr. ben sheets and 12 more 400 or higher ones.
ill tell you this i continue to make money off the flip on ebay with these heritage cards it cant miss! i thank joestalin for bringing this to my attention just wish i would of ordered 10 cases from topps direct(which i will do next year)!!
ebay id is gdlcards if you wnat to see the heritage! any roger clemans fans i pulled a nice patch card out of elite #d 12/25!

Stone193 · May 21, 2004 3:33PM

<< <i>helton purple jersey >>

Chris
Kevin has the only "Crayola" helton purple jersey on the planet!
You got some real mileage out of one retail box! Next year, I would consider a case to start - get a set on ebay with the pieces and pay for my own set! This is one of the best 'user' friendly sets on the market. On top of it, it's great to look at!
Thanx for the post - just when ya thought we were done talkin' about heritage.
Mike

edit: Bighurt - sorry - in keeping with the situation - the 84D is a favorite of mine - the Mattingly was one of the first cards that I had experience with respect to early couterfeits. The set lost the luster of the early 90's but still a keeper. I'm with Steve, save for a rainy day and commence to rippin'.

kuhlmann · May 21, 2004 3:38PM

Mike
funny thing is after all your help and all the boxes i bought at target and got direct from topps!! id say 20 in all now!I STILL AM MISSING 8 CARDS FROM THE BASE SET!!! HOW FUNNY IS THAT? Sp's my a$$ the commons are harder to get!! i have like i said opened over 20 boxes and dont have the base set and still havent seen ichiro # 50!!! anyway set is a lot of fun and got to talk with some great people trying to collect it.

Bighurt4 · May 21, 2004 3:47PM

kuhlman,
What non-SP's are you missing, I probably have them all.

Mike,

I finally picked up a Thomas Black Refractor. I also have 6 Thomas /555, it's almost like Mel Gibson in Consiracy Theory. Must get Catcher in the Rye or Big Hurt, whichever.

Brent

Stone193 · May 21, 2004 3:56PM

<< <i>I also have 6 Thomas /555, it's almost like Mel Gibson in Consiracy Theory. Must get Catcher in the Rye or Big Hurt, whichever. >>

Brent
That is the first sign of collector's insanity - wait till you receive your first email from one of yours sets telling you to "come out and play - we're so lonely without you"
LMK, on the elite card - I remember when I was offered 250$ from a dealer and turned it down - now what's it worth? 20$? But that's the collecting game.
Mike

Bighurt4 · May 21, 2004 6:15PM

All work and no play makes Brent a dull boy. All work and no play makes Brent a dull boy. All work and no play makes Brent a dull boy. All work and no play makes Brent a dull boy. All work and no play makes Brent a dull boy. All work and no play makes Brent a dull boy. All work and no play makes Brent a dull boy. All work and no play makes Brent a dull boy.

LOL, I love that movie. I am really taking a shotgun approach to collecting right now. I will be satisfied with the Thomas Set until after Christmas. When I get this submission graded, I'll have over 20% done which isn't bad for a 950+ card set.

I wanted to get into the top 5 of the Nolan Ryan Master Set but Jeff and Steve are relentless. For now, I'll just try to get to a set rating of 2.50.

As for the Heritage, any help would be greatly appreciated. I am bidding on ebay when possible but I am only winning 20-30% of the auctions I'm bidding on. If/when I complete it, it will be on my terms. I have prices in mind for each group of relics and misc stuff which limits bidding wars.

Anyway, off to bed, with visions of Jenna dancing in my head.
Brent

joestalin · May 22, 2004 1:24AM

BigHurt huh? I have a couple of nice cards.....2001 donruss sig auto where he signs big hurt under
the graph...you probably already have that one,but I also have a 2000 Pacific Inv Thomas patch card..
three colors but the best thing is that it is numbered 43/2000......Ill make you guess why that is
special.

I have about 4 heritage black refractors, they sell very well on ebay, LMK if you need them

I also, as Mike already said, have alot of the refractors and the chromes, LMK about those too. Yes there
are clearly unannounced short prints, If I had my thousands of cards in number order I might be able
to compare notes but I have heritage all over the place!

I have a few Ichiro SP's, but the only helton purple, (beisdes the one I forged), came from one of the
great traders here, I still have not pulled one in about 800 packs!

Kevin

Thegradinator · May 22, 2004 1:46AM

I think you should open each pack and post your results of each one like I did for my 1980 Topps hockey waxbox.

Bighurt4 · May 22, 2004 2:44AM

I'll post the results for the 19 packs of 1978 Topps I opened from Overtime. Crap, crap, crap, crap, crap, crap, crap, crap, crap, crap, crap, crap, crap, crap, crap, crap, crap, crap, crap. I still have 17 "unopened" packs if any of you sucke...er nice people would like to buy them. I'll guarantee I never went through them.

Brent

BTW- How exactly does a wax stained card get in the middle of a pack?

Stone193 · May 22, 2004 3:06AM

<< <i>I still have 17 "unopened" packs >>

Brent
And anyone else, this summer I would like to sell 1979 rack packs - I am giving one away on the NBA contest that is burried - I have a case. I want to check with the big houses and get the market value. I will drop it by 25-33% off that for the board people. Want to make some dough to offset the overbudget this year on heritage. I'm a tuff guy, I swear it has nothing to do with the Mrs.!
Brent, have you checked to see if those packs have been searched?
Mike

Bighurt4 · May 22, 2004 3:26AM

Mike,

These packs were built I believe. I would not sell them to anyone unless they were well aware that they were getting commons that were EX-NM. I just hate wasting time and money on junk.

Brent

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