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19541954 Posts: 2,898 ✭✭✭
As many of you vintage card collectors know Brian Drents' Mile High Auction is closing on Wednesday. There are some pretty interesting items that I am going after. I am looking for the rare/hard stuff to come by. I like the PSA graded Cracker Jack cards but those are really hitting the big numbers. I like the PSA 10 1951 Topps Panel because those are very rare in that grade. What about you 1971 Topps collectors out there? Is the 1971 topps set a good buy? What items are you looking for?

Let's have a positive discussion about some cards here.

Later,
1954
Looking for high grade rookie cards and unopened boxes/cases

Comments

  • I usually try to bottom feed on a card or two that gets little action, but that doesn't seem to happen anymore in auctions of cards like this.

    How about Verkman's "Clean Sweep" auction? As much as we criticize his overgrading at times, his June 2 auction has everything from World Series pins to stadium seats to old cards. It's kind of like a poor man's Mastro auction. I gotta hand it to Stevey, he consistantly comes out with a plethora......a cornacopia........of goodies. (practicing for my future job as chief Mastro poet).
  • kobykoby Posts: 1,699 ✭✭
    There are many many past threads about Steve Verkman and Clean Sweep Auctions on this forum and other forums. I have read that he is the most unfriendly dealer to deal with and that he hired a consultant to redo his poor image in this hobby. I also read that not only does Verkman overgrade by three full grades, but he also does not disclose trimmed cards.
  • 1420sports1420sports Posts: 3,473 ✭✭✭
    Steve Verkman is a pompous ass.
    collecting various PSA and SGC cards
  • I have always found that if you call Steve and grill him about the condition of cards you're intersted in buying he is always more than willing to give you a money back guarantee. In my case he gave me 90 days for cards I was getting graded.

    But I was very satisfid with the grading results v. his published condition so no returns were necessary.

    He may be a pompous ass....but in the hobby aren't 75% of the dealers? Peter Lalos is #1 PA on my list.
    There is a fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness"
  • I suppose I got lucky. The Wilson Frank cards I bought graded what he advertised, I liked the Negro League pennants, and the chick on the phone whenever I've called has always been super nice.

    That's pretty wild he hired a consultant. What they tell him? Hey Steve, don't act so pretentious around people!
    I have noticed at shows he appears preoccupied with himself.

    Sorry Shane, (about the positive talk about cards)
    here we go....

    I love Turkey Red cabinets!
    I love T205's!
    I'm gonna go for a mid grade Sport King set!
    I love caramel cards, but can never keep track of all the designations! Who cares!
    I'm forced to sell cards I love; to buy other cards I want!
    Every day of my life I look at sportscards on ebay!
    And I never get sick of it!
    I spend lots of money to travel to big shows to look at old pieces of cardboard!
    I still make impulsive purchases and have to scramble to pay for it!
    Cuz owning old cards is awesome baby!!!
    there.... that felt pretty good
  • Verkman has told me that a VG-EX card can have writings on the back. He also told me that he does not have to disclose trimmed cards if the grade is VG and otherwise looks good. I suppose if you keep these grading standards in mind and don't mind the occassional trimmed card, he is ok to deal with.

    The Cracker Jack cards in the Mile High auction look nice but are very expensive already.
  • "Peter Lalos is #1 PA on my list."

    Tom, What happened? If i had to list my top 3 dealers Peter would make the cut. I've spent alot of money with him in the past and never had a bad deal. Always cool.


    Paul.
    Check out my new web site: Monsters of the Gridiron
  • GriffinsGriffins Posts: 6,076 ✭✭✭
    Tom-
    I'll echo Paul here. I had a long phone conversation with Peter a few months ago, and found him very personable. If I caught him on a zoloft high let me know, but he's been pretty solid thru a dozen transactions.
    Other than that, how can you really justify an ego as a card dealer? It's not an occupation that makes women really hot for you- even those still in prison. Its cardboard, and designed for small boys at that. It's supposed to be fun.
    Anthony (glad that MW isn't here [at least with his real name] to rebut.image

    Always looking for Topps Salesman Samples, pre '51 unopened packs, E90-2, E91a, N690 Kalamazoo Bats, and T204 Square Frame Ramly's

  • kobykoby Posts: 1,699 ✭✭
    I haven't dealt with Peter for some time, but I used to submit cards through him when PSA would require cards to go through authorized dealers. Never had a problem with him.
  • GriffinsGriffins Posts: 6,076 ✭✭✭
    << He also told me that he does not have to disclose trimmed cards if the grade is VG and otherwise looks good>>

    Lipset says that it doesn't matter if a card is trimmed if its mid grade, since trimming only counts on high grades. They just think that you lower it a grade or 2 for trimming. This is why grading companies have help collectors- making this kind of practice unacceptable to everyone other than the few dinosaurs left to prey on the ignorant.

    Always looking for Topps Salesman Samples, pre '51 unopened packs, E90-2, E91a, N690 Kalamazoo Bats, and T204 Square Frame Ramly's

  • aro13aro13 Posts: 1,961 ✭✭✭
    I have always had excellent transactions with Peter and have found him very helpful.
  • ironrangerironranger Posts: 167 ✭✭
    I'll echo the comments about Peter Lalos -- done a lot of transactions with him. Always happy.
  • mikeschmidtmikeschmidt Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭
    Shane:

    I'll echo your comments - I have been high bidder on and off on the 1951 Topps PSA 10 Panel - but I have no real hopes of winning it. A very neat item nonetheless. I think Ron Hobbs has one of the better runs of panels that I've seen.

    I was very excited to see two 1955 Bowman PSA 9s in his auction. Unfortunately, they are both relatively high population. However, as an ardent follower of that set - I think it is a rare and beautiful thing to see a true MINT 1955 Bowman baseball card. The McDougald is a great Yankee card - and the Kaline is by far the easiest 9 in the set - but a great HOFer nonetheless. Two great buys for a 1955 Bowman enthusiast or a high-grade type care collector.
    I am actively buying MIKE SCHMIDT gem mint baseball cards. Also looking for any 19th century cabinets of Philadephia Nationals. Please PM with additional details.
  • 1420sports1420sports Posts: 3,473 ✭✭✭
    I have found that PSA dealers are generally more cordial than other dealers. Guys like Joe Checkovich, WV, Shoeless Joe and Tim, and our own Jay Wolt are quality people. There are some PSA dealers that do not give you the time of day, and it is almost like they have their own little club at the Fort Washington shows.

    But they are the cool guys
    collecting various PSA and SGC cards
  • murcerfanmurcerfan Posts: 2,329 ✭✭
    What sparks your interest ???

    well let's see,

    hmmmm.....

    ................. Spam has always been fascinating to me.
  • 19541954 Posts: 2,898 ✭✭✭
    MS- I like the 1955 Bowman cards as well. That is a gorgeous set in NRMT shape or better. I can't imagine what your set looks like in all PSA 8's.

    Thanks Murcerfan for your edited comments.
    Anthony I really like the Sports King set too. I think that will be my next venture.
    Scotty, as far as Peter Lalos and his service to the collecting card community. I think he is a very fine dealer. At the beginning I felt a tad uncomfortable around him because he is "short" in his conversation and quick to reply negatively. The more I got to know Peter the better I liked him. The issue was not him but me. I was different than he was and I was not use to that Eastern attitude. He is a great guy to know.

    1954
    Looking for high grade rookie cards and unopened boxes/cases
  • murcerfanmurcerfan Posts: 2,329 ✭✭
    I was different than he was and I was not use to that Eastern attitude.

    Hayseed.
  • wolfbearwolfbear Posts: 2,759 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I was different than he was and I was not use to that Eastern attitude.

    Hayseed. >>



    CITY SLICKER !

    Pix of 'My Kids'

    "How about a little fire Scarecrow ?"
  • murcerfanmurcerfan Posts: 2,329 ✭✭
    CITY SLICKER !

    Ha!

    Guess again swami.


  • packCollectorpackCollector Posts: 2,786 ✭✭✭
    what sparks my interest? cardboard in plastic especially if there is a boston logo on it
  • CON40CON40 Posts: 1,324 ✭✭✭
    I love to see vintage baseball cards in NM-MT with great color... to survive 50-100 years in such beautiful condition is remarkable... doesn't matter if it's a common 1956 Topps, a 1936 S&S, or a Cracker Jack Ty Cobb... I just want to stare at them and marvel... and if I were Donald Trump, I'd buy each and every one on the spot!
  • mikeschmidtmikeschmidt Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭


    << <i>MS- I like the 1955 Bowman cards as well. That is a gorgeous set in NRMT shape or better. I can't imagine what your set looks like in all PSA 8's. >>



    Shane:

    Not there yet! I believe that 1955 Bowman is the last major set from the 1950s that has *never* been completed in PSA 8 or better condition. I have spoken to many of the private collectors who shun the Registry and what not - and it does not seem like any of them are quite there yet. There is one collection that is probably much better than mine - but it is essentially not graded yet, although the individual does own a number of PSA graded 9 commons and stars from the set. There may be one really nice set out there that I don't know about (it would have to be one that was largely completed over five years ago.....), but the 1955 Bowman set remains one of the most condition-sensitive sets that I know.

    I know many shun the set because of not-so-nice photos, or the lack of certain star cards - but there are some really neat things about the set. I love the umpire subset. I love the 1955 Bowman cards that do not have equivalent Topps counterparts (e.g. Mantle), and I really enjoy how this is one of the few sets out there where one card does not end up costing you >25% of your total money in the set. There are not too many vintage sets out there like that. I'm still tracking down those final few cards I need - and am down to but a handful, and I have some inroads as to potential leads for nice raw examples. But we will see. The people I have met working on this set have all been very helpful and fabulous - and it has been a pleasure to put together.

    When I look at similar sets from the 1950s - with 1951 Bowman PSA 9 common cards going for $1k - $5k each, 1953 Bowman Color cards often eclipsing a $5k price in PSA 8 -- I really think that this is one of the true "values" out there right now, that may not exist in 5 years, when the big players are done with their more popular sets and start to put this one together. There are still a large number of commons that have PSA 8 populations less than 10 (there are quite a dozen or so that have PSA 8 populations of 5 or less!!!), which makes completing this set a monumental challenge.

    best-
    MS
    I am actively buying MIKE SCHMIDT gem mint baseball cards. Also looking for any 19th century cabinets of Philadephia Nationals. Please PM with additional details.
  • pcpc Posts: 743


    << <i>I haven't dealt with Peter for some time, but I used to submit cards through him when PSA would require cards to go through authorized dealers. Never had a problem with him. >>



    i stopped buying from him when he sniped cards on ebay
    that i needed and continued to do so after our discussion.
    i dont mind dealers outbidding me but i had a long history
    with lalos and his response that he didnt care who was high
    bid didnt sit well with me.the result was i stopped retail purchases
    from him.
    Money is your ticket to freedom.
  • 19541954 Posts: 2,898 ✭✭✭
    Mark-
    I think the 1955 set is undervalued as well and the Umpire subset is a great part of why I like it so much.
    PC-
    I can understand your frustrations.
    Murcerfan-
    Watch out! This name calling is stopping in Clev.

    1954
    Looking for high grade rookie cards and unopened boxes/cases
  • 1954,

    In response to your original message, the '51 Panels are really tough in any grade and extremely rare in PSA 9 or 10. These were subject to the same problems as the '51 Connie Mack and Major League All-Stars - some kind of production problem whereby many of the cards contain small "wrinkles" on the back of the card making their technical grade EX at best. I've been collecting these for a while. The PSA 10 Rizzuto/Roe would be a steal under $2,000 and is probably fairly valued around $3,000. The PSA 9 Snider/Seminick is probably a $800 to $1,000 card.

    The '71 set looks good as well. Breakup value is probably very high, and it would be a steal anywhere under $2,000.

    Good post 1954.
  • 19541954 Posts: 2,898 ✭✭✭
    ccmclleland-
    I was thinking that the PSA 10 was way under priced right now. As far as the 1971 topps set it looks to me like that may have one more bid left on it, but not two. I was thinking about buying it and breaking it up for resale and wanted to know how much juice it had left.

    1954
    Looking for high grade rookie cards and unopened boxes/cases
  • 1954,

    The PSA 10 is clearly low. I think the break up on the '71 set is probably over $3k, so $1,500 seems like a real bargain to me.
  • BasiloneBasilone Posts: 2,492 ✭✭

    Here are several cards that I would like to own from the auction:

    Lot #59 - 1953 Bowman Color Stan Musial PSA 9
    Lot #82 - 1952 Bowman Yogi Berra PSA 8
    Lot #161 - 1967 Topps Bill Mazeroski PSA 9
    Lot #219 - 1950 Bowman Stan Rojek PSA 10
    Lot #231 - 1952 Topps Pete Castiglione PSA 8
    Lot #243 - 1953 Topps Carlos Bernier PSA 9
  • murcerfanmurcerfan Posts: 2,329 ✭✭
    Ahhhhhhhh............
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    ........I love the smell of Spam in the morning.
  • 19541954 Posts: 2,898 ✭✭✭
    AHHHHHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhh!
    Murcerfan, if you like that early in the morning try the sh*T patty I am going to make for you at the National on Thursday morning. If I were you I would wear a football helmet to sleep in. I am going to make your three nights hell.

    Love,
    1954
    Looking for high grade rookie cards and unopened boxes/cases
  • murcerfanmurcerfan Posts: 2,329 ✭✭
    After spending all your $$ on the great buys in Brian's auction tonight.....
    Mile High Auction

    ................won't you be too broke to go ?
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  • A good looking intelligent black woman sparks my interest.
  • 19541954 Posts: 2,898 ✭✭✭
    HMMM....try Omarosa or Oprha
    Looking for high grade rookie cards and unopened boxes/cases
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