Anybody know anything about Hibernia coinage?

Blackhawk

This half penny has some die cracks on the obverse and something going on in the hair (diebreak?). The reverse has some red paint on it. I don't know if the planchet was damaged to make it have a flat side, or if that's the way it was struck...I'd also like to know the variety and value if anyone has an idea. Thanks

Aethelred

The paint on the reverse looks like the number 4, could be a museum mark.

spinaker2000

I'll give ya $5 for it, since it's been painted.

shirohniichan

<< <i>The paint on the reverse looks like the number 4, could be a museum mark. >>



Is it considered AT?

rhound1977

<< <i>I'll give ya $5 for it, since it's been painted. >>



Carefull..... that could be lead based paint.........

Russ

VF35 details, corroded, graffiti, net F12, $50.

Russ, NCNE

coachleonard

I'd say the obverse is Xf details, reverse VF. Smudginess here and there, but overall very attractive.

coachleonard

P.S
These are listed in the U.S Redbook in the Colonials section, as some of these were imported to America, having been rejected in Ireland.

JadeRareCoin

Your coin would fall under Breen-154, which includes 20 sub-varieties. I am not sure what Nelson number your coin is, but I have seen that variety before. The "4" could be a collector's inventory number. 1723 Half Pennies are very common, especially in the condition of your piece. We sell this type of item for $50 (+/-). Even some of the rare varieties do not command a premium, simply because there are only a few people who collect these by variety. Neat coin though. I like it!

Russ

<< <i>as some of these were imported to America >>



Actually, "dumped" would be closer than imported.

Russ, NCNE

MSD61

This is a wood's half penny and your coin Blackhawk is a Wood's Halfpenny Type II 1723. There were two types of Wood's half pennies struck and this is the most common variety of Wood's halfpenny. The pellet after the date and no pellet before HIBERNIA identify this as a type II variety.

Wood's halfpennies are not scarce but examples with mint lustre, original red colour with no problems are quite scarce.
You have to be on the look out for Ha' pennies with porous or pitted surfaces and with any corrosion. Planchette flaws are common in this series and the do tend to reduce the value of the affected coins quite significantly. Your coin looks a bit corroded, grades fine and the painted look tells me that some one has "doctored" the coin to make it look as if it had some of its original red colour. Because of the condition it would be worth less than $50

Type I Wood's Ha' penney


Type II Wood's Ha' penney


These coins are collected as part of the US colonial series so they tend to be more expensive in low grade than other 18th century Irish copper even though these pieces are most common.

lordmarcovan

Nice coin, and while I agree with Russ' assessment of VF35 (I'd have said VF30 myself), I would not have net graded it to Fine for corrosion.

Sure, there's a little greenish verdigris in places, and a grading service might have so graded it, but I would take a wooden toothpick and some oil and work on those spots. It's a nice piece, and I like it.