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Pick One: Inconsistent Grading or Consistent Undergrading

scottsusorscottsusor Posts: 1,210
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Let's imagine for a moment that it has become impossible cost-wise and profit-wise for PSA to maintain a high standard of both consistent and accurate grading.

Given that, which business model would you prefer?

(1) Inconsistent Grading

Or

(2) Consistent Undergrading

Or

(3) Raise Grading Prices (i.e. more graders, better training, more time for each card) to get Consistent and Accurate Grading

Pick only one and explain why.

Scott

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  • qualitycardsqualitycards Posts: 2,811 ✭✭✭
    NONE OF THE ABOVE!
    That is 3 bad scenerios. Thats like saying how would you like to be killed tonight, a gunshot, poison or thrown off a building...jay
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  • shouldabeena10shouldabeena10 Posts: 1,357 ✭✭✭

    So in conclusion.....


    Inconsistent Graders will get thrown off a building

    Consistent Undergrading gets you poisoned

    and if you Raise Grading Prices.... you get shot


    hmmm, no easy choices here
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  • CON40CON40 Posts: 1,324 ✭✭✭
    Scott;

    Gotta go with Jay on this one... if this were the best that PSA could do, I'd go back to collecting raw, or letting someone else pay for the frustration of grading and just get my slabs in auctions.
  • MorrellManMorrellMan Posts: 3,238 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Thats like saying how would you like to be killed tonight, a gunshot, poison or thrown off a building...jay >>


    I thought the same thing when I read the title of the thread, but then you threw in that 3rd choice. I vehemently oppose higher prices, but if that's what it takes to assure accurate consistent grading, then that's my choice. And I would probably use the service a lot less.

    Mark (amerbbcards)


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  • toppsguntoppsgun Posts: 787 ✭
    Another stupid hypothetical from Scott-the-Shell Answer Man. Enough with these pointless, unproductive posts, please!
  • packCollectorpackCollector Posts: 2,786 ✭✭✭
    ok ,I have listened to all the complaining recently and I am sure there is some basis . Here is my experience , I just got this invoice back 60's invoince and I would say everything was about what I expected. There weren't any cards in there that were going to be 9's and some of them could have gone 9 o/c instead of straight 7's . The 3 nitschki's all could have gone 9 o/c which is why I never submitted them before. I have now submitted between 300-400 of the 64 philly's from the same source over the last year and the grades have been consistant across the board. The cards are all pack fresh with centering as the only drawback on some which a few of the guys on this board can confirm.

    In my case these cards have not been handled very much and all came from rack packs about 15 years ago so the cards are pretty much all the same and psa has come back with grades that were expected each time.
  • DirtyHarryDirtyHarry Posts: 1,917 ✭✭✭
    None of the above. They sell a service, not a commodity based product that may call for a rise in prices in order to maintain product quality. Like any other company, if they feel it is necessary to invest in things like more graders, better training, etc... to maintain quality they will need to look within to see where other costs can be cut to fund the initiative.

    More than I should have said. Toppsgun may have summed it up most succiently.
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  • scottsusorscottsusor Posts: 1,210


    << <i>Another stupid hypothetical from Scott-the-Shell Answer Man. Enough with these pointless, unproductive posts, please! >>


    Ahem, teenagers.

    If my posts are too much, maybe we can find a willing woman to breast feed you.

    You know, a MATURE person would simply skip over threads they don't want to read.

    Scott
  • DhjacksDhjacks Posts: 343 ✭✭
    I guess I'll choose...... being poisoned from breast feeding on that woman.

    I also chose not to be mature and skip a thread that didn't interest me.
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  • 1420sports1420sports Posts: 3,473 ✭✭✭
    Given those choices, I would collect beer cans.

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  • poolpool Posts: 58 ✭✭
    For any product or service,
    I would chose consistency.
  • toppsguntoppsgun Posts: 787 ✭
    "Toppsgun may have summed it up most succiently."

    "I also chose not to be mature and skip a thread that didn't interest me."

    "Given those choices, I would collect beer cans."




    Scott, read much? Or do you just type away?

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  • bill7549bill7549 Posts: 182 ✭
    As much as grading costs now, I would be furious if PSA decided to increase their prices so that they could offer more consistent grading. Of course, this is entirely hypothetical, but I'm sure they would lose so many customers that it wouldn't be worth the increase in fees.

    I actually wish they would drop their fees, so that more VG and lower cards would be graded. The lower fees would make it more cost productive.
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  • DirtyHarryDirtyHarry Posts: 1,917 ✭✭✭
    Bill7549 - hear you all the way. The fees will unfortunately never drop though . Controlled growth with modest pricing advances is what corporations do. They have no interest in trading down their margins despite increased volume - that would result in more head count needed to run the business. ZZZZZZZZZZZ
    Proud of my 16x20 autographed and framed collection - all signed in person. Not big on modern - I'm stuck in the past!
  • purelyPSApurelyPSA Posts: 712 ✭✭
    How about simply expecting more?
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    and to think all I want to do is collect baseball cards....
    Good for you.
  • calleochocalleocho Posts: 1,569 ✭✭
    hey Neal this one still has 6 days left
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  • DirtyHarryDirtyHarry Posts: 1,917 ✭✭✭
    Winpitcher - Ha..ha...you are on the money. I for one have a hard time segregating my hobby self from my business self, especially when my hobby self intersects with my business self. Sound weird? Yes it is weird --- I collect cards. But I am probably off base to start with.
    Proud of my 16x20 autographed and framed collection - all signed in person. Not big on modern - I'm stuck in the past!
  • qualitycardsqualitycards Posts: 2,811 ✭✭✭
    CALLEOCHO - After seeing that auction, perhaps the collectible beer can industry needs grading. The title lists the can as MINT, although it has rust on it. Not sure of the Beer can standards of grading, as I'm used to opening a beer, I drain it carefully into a mug and toss the can out for recycling image ...jay
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  • joker73joker73 Posts: 497 ✭
    Holy cow ... if I saw one of those sitting on a table at a flea market priced at over a few bucks, I'd think the seller was crazy. The world of collectibles is truly a wonderful one - if you know your stuff!

    Robert
  • dudedude Posts: 1,454 ✭✭
    Speaking of collecting beer cans, have any of you fellow Houstonians ever checked out the Beer Can House? That has to be the biggest beer can collections in terms of quantity.
  • toppsguntoppsgun Posts: 787 ✭
    No affiliation with THE BEER CAN HOUSE:

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