OT: Who wants to join me?

pandrews

ARGHH!! I feel like roundin' up a posse and walkin through the streets of Iraq.. I need to get one of these "contractor" jobs.. and I really believe there are alot of people who feel the same way I do. I believe there are some A$$ KICKIN people who feel the same as I do. Thank God Thomas Hamill escaped alive. These guys are pure animals. If you dont know what I'm talking about, turn on the news. How can the pictures of their prisoners being "abused" compare to the film of hooded Iraqi SOB's _SAWING_ off a 26 year old Americans head? Nobody can say this is their response to our "abuse" photos either, the SOB's did this 2 years ago to Daniel Pearl.

envoy98

Sick sunsab!t<he$ who want to get their "hooded" faces on TV and do something sick and demented all in the name of being stupid while uisng a holy war or some other event to disguise their real motives. While our abuse of prisoners is absolutely pathetic and uncalled for, maybe if we said it was in retaliation for "[insert horrible crime commited against us here]" then maybe they ignorant a**holes would just shrug their shoulders and say..."well, I guess we're even, we'll have to wait for another crime to use as an excuse" You can feel free to use any crime you like. Here are a few for consideration: 9/11, Contractors shot, set on fire then dismembered and dragged through the streets, attacks on soldiers, embassies, USS Cole or any other number of atrocities...Just pick one. While I agree with your sentiment, the problem is that many of them are completely for our occupation, or at least our liberating efforts, there are many who are against it. Some of this is crime of opportunity, though horrific on so many fronts, it's in many cases no different than those that looted in LA during the Rodney Riots. Many of those people would not have done the things they did were it not for an excuse and an opportunity. It's sick, disgusting, pathetic and unfortunately, is not going to change any time soon. I think even after we are long gone, the problems will persist and we will still be attacked in the name of something. World peace is a great goal, albeit an entirely unrealistic one considering today's state of affairs. Just my .02

CADILLACN97

it's pretty messed up over there right now, to say the least. sure, maybe what we did was no better than them doing it to us, but how come everytime you turn on the news they are talking about us torturing them. why don't they show pictures on the news from the TIME magazine article a couple of weeks ago when they BEAT 4 AMERICAN CIVILIANS, hung them up for all to see on a bridge while they were still alive, then SET THEM on FIRE and let them burn to death. as parts were falling from the dead, the crowd stomped and kicked them till there was nothing left. the pictures alone were very gruesome, along with the death to all americans signs they all held up. i couldn't even finish the article. and these were civilians, not soldiers. but yet, WE are wrong?

way OT, but thanx PANDREWS for letting me vent a little and thanx again to you and everybody else on the boards who has served our country (we all do in some way, but i most certainly have never been in the thick of it. i wanted to join the NAVY after high school, but blew my right knee out pretty bad playing soccer. still hurts like heck 10 yrs later). MUCH RESPECT.

E

Stone193

Pan
20 years in the Army, two wars and it doesn't seem to get better. This is not a level playing field - way too complicated for a simple response of total and complete ire - I pray for the families of all those who have lost a loved one.
Mike

pandrews

Sorry for the off-topic thread, but like Cadillac said, I felt the need to vent at the time.. every time they showed a clip of that boy saying he had a mama and a dad, a brother and sister.. man, just thinking about how they're feeling right now gives me chills.. i'm done with the subject for now.. it just irritates me the more i think about it

Aknot

With you stone. I mean no wars but I have in the line of duty had to discharge my weapon wounding someone. While your heart (pandrews) may in the right place, once there it is a whole different ballgame.

Now if you could round up ALL the parties responsible and be 100% sure that there were no civies then fine. But you cant. That is one of the things that make "our" job that much more difficult.

And I quote:

"I pray for the families of all those who have lost a loved one"

DirtyHarry

We can thank our media idiots for this. Everything is about digging up the sensational story or pictures that will further enhance the media frenzy and thus, jusify their positions in life. This whole thing started with a handful of undertrained reservists thrust into a vastly undermanned position and yes, they made mistakes. IMO they humiliated the enemy to keep them under control and to pass some intellectual pain - they didn't kill them, decapitate them, mutilate them, infect them, starve them or poison them. They were just stupid - a crime that is not heinous.

Now our President HAS TO apologize for this IRRESPONSIBLE ACT PERPITRATED BY THE MEDIA. This is war - stuff happens and this was nothing. Now we have American citizens getting their heads cut off because some media azzwipe GOT A BONUS.

Very, very sad and irresponsible behavior by citizens of our country. Far worse than the "supposed" crimes from our honorable military men and women.