Portraits in Bronze
MacCrimmon
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Some new halfpennys which flew from across the pond.
1874 Freeman 314 - R16; ex. Freeman, Samual, Ashman, Nicholson; now the wee Dark Crofter's Mouse
Graded BU - Full Lustre with slight toning as seen. She is Very Choice to near Gem BU RED per TPGs.
1875 (Can't locate my Freeman book
); formerly in an ANACS slab as MS65RD 
Unusual clashing from the gowns folds on Vicky's nape.....I like RED!
The '75 was BIN'd from Lloyd some months ago......
1874 Freeman 314 - R16; ex. Freeman, Samual, Ashman, Nicholson; now the wee Dark Crofter's Mouse
Graded BU - Full Lustre with slight toning as seen. She is Very Choice to near Gem BU RED per TPGs.
1875 (Can't locate my Freeman book
); formerly in an ANACS slab as MS65RD Unusual clashing from the gowns folds on Vicky's nape.....I like RED!
The '75 was BIN'd from Lloyd some months ago......
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nice ones Mac!!
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<< <i> They're OK, if you like red!! >>
Got a recipe to make them 'blue'??
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Good catch.
Shep
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The 1874 with no H in high grade is a very rare coin. That Nicholson collection made them look easy because I think he had 5 or 6 different varieties ALL PUSHING BU!!!
I posted a pic of one on this forum last year from my collection - it was the best I'd ever seen until March this year.
The 1875 above I purchased from NEN but just got fed up of owning a slabbed coin. It's Freeman 321 which is the more common variety, but that doesn't matter - it's the grade that is most important to the majority of collectors.
Both brilliant coins Mac. The 74 is something else.
L
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<< <i>How rare is R16 in the British rarity scale? >>
This is the Freeman scale - R16 means 51-100 examples known. Like most scales it's not to be trusted but this is probably a fair reflection.
The thing is the vast majority of the 51-100 are in sub VF grade.
L
Lloyd, PUSHING BU ?
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<< <i>This is the Freeman scale
Lloyd, PUSHING BU ?
I forget where I am sometimes...
Freeman is M J Freeman, author of The Bronze Coinage of Great Britain. This lays out die varieties for Pennies, Halfpennies and Farthings from 1860. It has taken over from Peck as the reference for bronze coinage. So F321 (R9) would refer to Freeman number 321 with a rarity rating of 9 for this particular variety (not date).
Rarity Ratings go From C20 (over 150 million exist) through to C (2-3 million) and then go up through R1 (650k - 1 million) to R20 (unique).
eg. R9 = 7,001-12,000
It's a pretty patchy work with a lot of missed varieties, but if it's the standard it's the standard.
L
<< <i> That 1874 was on my list but I ended up dumping around £15,000 that week. >>
I was pleasantly surprised that there was no other bidding on the 1874 after I posted my opening because everything else seemed to be relentless pounded higher, and since the pound is pounding the dollar I was hesitant to reach higher.
<< <i>.... I purchased from NEN but just got fed up of owning a slabbed coin. >>
I'm glad you got fed up. Of course, I busted that slab in a heartbeat.
As to the 1874, my take is that that date as well as many others (1869, 1871, 1878, etc.) of S-3956 type are extremely rare in this true BU condition. Even those quoted in Spinks between £150 to £275 are, IMHO, not to be missed when offered in anything which is a solid MS64+ RB or higher. I think that in 2020 we'll all fondly look back on this time remembering what was. So, this poor mouse will grab them when possible. What's true is that most of the time when some really superb coins come along, I'm too cash strapped to compete.....like Terner II.
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<< <i> That 1874 was on my list but I ended up dumping around £15,000 that week. >>
I was pleasantly surprised that there was no other bidding on the 1874 after I posted my opening because everything else seemed to be relentless pounded higher, and since the pound is pounding the dollar I was hesitant to reach higher.
<< <i>.... I purchased from NEN but just got fed up of owning a slabbed coin. >>
I'm glad you got fed up. Of course, I busted that slab in a heartbeat.
As to the 1874, my take is that that date as well as many others (1869, 1871, 1878, etc.) of S-3956 type are extremely rare in this true BU condition. Even those quoted in Spinks between £150 to £275 are, IMHO, not to be missed when offered in anything which is a solid MS64+ RB or higher. I think that in 2020 we'll all fondly look back on this time remembering what was. So, this poor mouse will grab them when possible. What's true is that most of the time when some really superb coins come along, I'm too cash strapped to compete.....like Terner II.
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<< <i> That 1874 was on my list but I ended up dumping around £15,000 that week. >>
I was pleasantly surprised that there was no other bidding on the 1874 after I posted my opening because everything else seemed to be relentless pounded higher, and since the pound is pounding the dollar I was hesitant to reach higher.
<< <i>.... I purchased from NEN but just got fed up of owning a slabbed coin. >>
I'm glad you got fed up. Of course, I busted that slab in a heartbeat.
As to the 1874, my take is that that date as well as many others (1869, 1871, 1878, etc.) of S-3956 type are extremely rare in this true BU condition. Even those quoted in Spinks between £150 to £275 are, IMHO, not to be missed when offered in anything which is a solid MS64+ RB or higher. I think that in 2020 we'll all fondly look back on this time remembering what was. So, this poor mouse will grab them when possible. What's true is that most of the time when some really superb coins come along, I'm too cash strapped to compete.....like Terner II.
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Don't worry - I didn't do the whole amount on the Nicholson list.....
One observation on that collection was the lack of good 1878 1/2ds. Nicholson's were substandard in comparison to his whole collection. I seen a BU on Ebay about 18 months ago and it was in the wrong category. I didn't even see it but my friend bought it and posted me the link to gloat. I was in something like US Colonial category. Since then I've seen two in UNC (apart from Nicholson's). One was completely toned and the other with around 50% lustre (I now own it). Something to look out for in high grade.
I have only ever seen two 1878 1/2ds with wide dates in my life - both poor.
L
Fantastic coins, High-Rollin' Mouse!!
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