question about price?
BigKidAtHeart
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any Topps Heritage collectors out there that can tell me what the current going rate for the base set of cards (with SPs)
It is all the 2004 Topps Heritage cards, sp cards and variations, but without the chromes.
(ebay prices are all over the place...)
let me know... I am curious what it is worth...
and it if is good, I would think about selling it.
It is all the 2004 Topps Heritage cards, sp cards and variations, but without the chromes.
(ebay prices are all over the place...)
let me know... I am curious what it is worth...
and it if is good, I would think about selling it.
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<< <i>any Topps Heritage collectors out there that can tell me what the current going rate for the base set of cards >>
Jeff
I guess the old saying 'strike while iron is hot' surely applies to this set - in the past few weeks the action has slowed and the prices have leveled at what I would call - you didn't break even point:
Sets I checked: 250 242.50 152 256 275 230 (2 didn't make reserve) - the average is about $235.
What do ya think?
Mike
edited to add: I think heritage is a wonderful set and I wish I had started with them a few years back, I missed out and went with the UD vintage for 3 years (didnt do them this yr)
and for the record I do like the set, but I was curious what it was worth.
thanks
~jeff
real vintage stuff....
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<< <i>It's a fun set to put together. >>
Envoy
I echo those words. I had a lot of fun especially working with people on the boards. I think most of us will agree on this part. Good info from the local scene. Doesn't that just reinforce what a lot of people have said that ebay provides good prices for those searching for items?
Mike
your lack of wisdom in those UD Vintage blunders now have you better to those who put together
heritage sets?
Again you are wrong, heritage has a yearly renewel. We saw it this year, activity on prior sets went
up. Sure people have moved on now and we aren't seeing 500 bucks a set, but next year at
this time you will have a shot to sell off some of the extras as people will be looking to fill
in holes! Can you name me a set that has this loyal following? Heck there was a good friend here
who was talking about 2005 heritage before 2004 even hit!
Im really sick of bitter vintage card collectors coming on here and vomiting info that isn't backed up
or thought about. If you haven't followed the market and actually ripped the wax, and put the set
together, and done some trades afterwards, then you just aren't equipped to handle this topic, please
just go write about something else, like someone's funny ebay auction.
Sincerely,
Heritage Collector
your sick and tired? of what? people expressing an opinion that may differ from your own? funny how the person that created this thread agreed with my opinion. maybe for him it was a good opinion?
how many sets do i have? more then you that is for sure
again i am wrong heritage has a yearly re newal.........yes i know, my original reply stated that it had, and that is what was good abt it. maybe if you read and comprehended what i said you wouldnt have acted so irrational and thus "stupid"
my so called UD vintage blunders......blunders? I never said they were blunders, as a matter of fact I like them!! that's why I did them for 3 years I didnt do them this year cuz I didnt like the style!!
again if you read and comprehended my post you would see your blunder!! I could care less that they went down in value or remained stagnant.....had you read and understood basic english you would have realised what I was saying.
vomiting info...........yeah im sick and tired of hearing your vomit too
<< <i>i enjoyed it.. i still have a 1 gallon ziplock bag full of bubble gum to chew.. this was my first year of Heritage, and it was the first set i put together since I started collecting again.. >>
PAndrews: I have 3 empty heritage boxes full of gum! This was my first year of really starting to collect baseball again too and this is the first set I've put together in over 5 years. (I did a 99 bowman's best FB set in 99) I've never been a big setbuilder though. I usually buy a bunch of boxes and if I end up buying several boxes of the same product I'll try to put a base set together. I am working on, and nearly completed, an 04 SPA BK set, all rookies, rookie fx, sp spectaculars and the base signature cards.
At any rate, I will be putting together a heritage set again next year. I started a cracker jack set this year but the set prices were very low and I just couldn't get excited enough about the prospect of the inserts and sp's in this set, so I have a box full of cards that will sit forever incomplete. Sad too, I only had 1 dupe out of an entire box.
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watching the prices of this stuff? Then why come on here and tell is that it isn't worth anything now and
never will be or are you trying to tell us that your use of the word dormant meant that heritage wouldn't
be worth anything just for a little bit?....please
You could be older than my grandfather, but that doesn't mean you know squat about heritage, age has
no bearing on modern issue collecting, there are kids over on the buy sell board who could school you
in basketball releases, why get mad at that?
Im sorry but no where in your post do you mention that older heritage sets and singles actually appreciate. If
you did I wouldn't be all over you.
The bottom line is that you opened your mouth about something you know nothing about, if you want to
take the word heritage out of your original post then I can drop this but you have no facts and didn't even
answer the original question.
Hugs and Kisses,
JS
PS Thanks for the lovely PM's
<< <i>PAndrews: I have 3 empty heritage boxes full of gum! This was my first year of really starting to collect baseball again too and this is the first set I've put together in over 5 years. (I did a 99 bowman's best FB set in 99) I've never been a big setbuilder though. I usually buy a bunch of boxes and if I end up buying several boxes of the same product I'll try to put a base set together. I am working on, and nearly completed, an 04 SPA BK set, all rookies, rookie fx, sp spectaculars and the base signature cards.
At any rate, I will be putting together a heritage set again next year. I started a cracker jack set this year but the set prices were very low and I just couldn't get excited enough about the prospect of the inserts and sp's in this set, so I have a box full of cards that will sit forever incomplete. Sad too, I only had 1 dupe out of an entire box. >>
sounds like my story.. i collected everything real heavy from 1987-1995.. then i didnt buy anything until September of last year.. I've got a few sets that i put together years ago, and I just recently found a few partial sets that I started prior to 1995 and never completed, so I'm trying to fill them in now.. I started a 2003 Finest Football set because I bought a bunch of singles from a friend, and I really like the looks of the set.. I started Heritage this year, and now I want to go back and get the previous Heritage years (hence, what Joe Stalin said about renewed interest and appreciation in prior Heritage sets, is correct in my case).. I also am working on a cracker jack set.. for some reason, i seem to like the modern "retro" sets that have a "vintage" look to them.. even the Topps 206 or whatever and UD Vintage stuff I like (but I havent bought enough of them to even think about putting a set together)..
you did I wouldn't be all over you.>
I didnt because that wasnt the question.
My opinion to the original poster was simply that if you collect modern (any modern) it is best to like the set. no more no less then that. You in your infinate wisdom drew conclusions that i was a heritage basher when that is far from the truth! Any set that gets people to collect and excited is a good set! I personally could care less if sets go up in value, remain the same or lose value. I collect what i like period.
and as for opening my mouth etc, i was feeding off the post stone
left......as so many of these posts do
my use of the word dormant meant that most have now completed their sets and would await the next series...........had nothing to do with the price of heritage tanking....actually heritage is one of the few modern issues that retain some value (depending of course at what level one bought at i assume)
lol please copy and paste where i said heritage was never worth anything now and or in the future? man you really are a pc of work
topps heritage, which is a modern issue, which you said is junk. If heritage isn't like all the rest then
why bring up that most modern issues don't hold value?
That would actually be the last thing I would of put in a post about heritage. Perhaps I was in the wrong
to include you in the crusty group of vintage collectors who think anything in a pack today will never
be worth anything or of any use in the future.
I just didn't see any support to your statement.
Did you get all the 3D cards in your vintage sets?
-Kevin
my original post has remained the same it was edited to add the sentence that i believed heritage was a wonderful set etc i never said heritage was junk
01.............1 sale, 02.............1 sale, 03...........1 sale
tells me that those that have em do not want to part with them or that those that have them do not feel they can profit yet with them.
and fyi dormant is not a negative term......
I can't believe im arguing about this.
Rippin' and sellen', and gettin' back 30 cents on every dollar I spend.
Not sure about desypherin' all them numbers,
but anyways, I gots to put my ole' brain back to work on that dang ole' thesis o' mine.
you made a statement in your post that i said all modern and especially heritage was JUNK I have yet to see your proof of that
2 dormant......are you gonna tell me that the previous years heritage is not now dormant? my use of the word dormant was used in the context that after the hype of any set is over they are relegated to binders in closets across america, heck even if your friend is asking abt 05 heritage before 04 is even finished that is where they now rest. and speaking of this thread lets u and me both give it a rest and maybe do as I ask and spend some energy and address big kid on your next reply...........thanks
I love the vintage stuff but to me as a dealer the Modern issues make a better way to turn money over quicker. It is true that the window of oppurtunity is short on moderns but with a little effort you can make alot to buy the vintage stuff with when it comes along.
<< <i>and fyi dormant is not a negative term...... >>
I would have to agree.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=dormant
This set got me interested in set building again, though I never pursued it hard core, when I was doing it (late 80's), sets were easy to put together and there weren't short prints or inserts to chase after. It was a fun set, yes, the set is going dormant, I don't think that's a negative term, I think it's accurate. I think these sets hold a special place with a lot of collectors that take the time to put them together and they probably build one or two sets and stash them away. That's not a bad thing. I figure, with most modern product, the other poster (I forget who posted this) is right, most modern garners you 30 cents on the dollar, if you're lucky. I will say that Heritage baseball and Topps Chrome basketball are 2 of the better products however. I get almost full pack price for every one I open by selling one card from the pack. (This is true with Heritage out of the booster boxes) In fact, I don't think I made less than $10 per booster box in the last couple of months. Topps Chrome basketball was the same way. $2-$3 / rookie or refractor, 8-15 / black refractor, I paid for my boxes very quickly. Now SPA BK is an entirely different story. I've gotten $6 from an entire box of that... That hurts.
At any rate, I only sold my heritage set because the enjoyment I got out of it was building it. I have a ton of sp's left and even more commons. I could work on another one if I really wanted to but... I was hoping CJ would be good, but IMHO it sucks. I like the retro theme and the cards but the vars arent sp's, I hate the mystery pack stickers and I don't know what else. It is cheap for a box though and the 2 inserts per box are decent if you get an auto or buyback.
I will pursue a '52 themed heritage set. (2001 I think...?) Only because it is a remake of my favorite set ever, but then who didn't love the 52 set? I will keep it and that will be the end of it. It will probably sit in my closet for the next 20 years.
It's kinda funny, Lebron / Melo got me collecting basketball again, and I spent a TON OF MONEY on basketball wax this year, and heritage got me interested in baseball again. I was strictly football for the last 5 years or so, at least when buying boxes.
The point here is, do what you want, collect what you want but most importantly, have fun with it. If you collect vintage, that's awesome, some of the greatest players ever are from vintage. The rarity of high grades makes the chase that much more entertaining. It's no different really than chasing a 1/1 in modern. If you only collect modern, that's great too. I think the Set Registry did for vintage what heritage did for me with baseball, it renewed an interest and created a challenge that before, I hadn't ever thought of. And the really cool thing is we can all sit here and banter about it!
Ok, that's enough rah-rah team from me for now.
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I wonder how much some of you see. I have talked back in forth with win for a while now and I know
that he doesn't do this for a living. He got burned on a few sets, but who hasn't? He hasn't collected
heritage, and has never followed the numbers on ebay. BKAH is probably one of the best people on
this thread to answer his own question.
My beef was with a person here who made a statement without backing it up. Win never put a heritage set
together and never watched the sell prices on ebay. He didn't know the difference between retail
and hobby boxes, and he had never traded any of those cards with anyone here. We can debate
his verbage all day, the fact is he came on and mixed negative comments in with a post on heritage, which
is perhaps one of the only sets that is positive in todays hobby.
You can make your money back on this stuff, and do it all year long. Most of us know that building a set
isn't done overnight and that people will pay to get this set done. Hard core collectors also know that
collation was bad and that certain cards reamain hard to find. I have had several collectors here who
were more than willing to buy their needs at half book.
Now Im not talking about autographs, and rookies, Im talking about inserts and common short prints.
Someone tell me where else in the hobby you can sell common sp's and inserts? You just can't, and
topps has come out with a strong heritage product for 4 years now. 2001 boxes are selling for 250
dollars and the other 3 years are all over original cost.
If heritage isn't the exception to the rule then I don't know what is. Why would anyone come on here
and mention losing money or describing the cards as just sitting around (dormant)?
If Win really meant to show heritage in a good light then I missed that, and I apologize for that, but he
was talking about a product that he had no experience with, and that bothers me.
Kevin
<< <i>If Win really meant to show heritage in a good light then I missed that, and I apologize for that, but he >>
JS
Those are good words and I know that you are one of the good guys who is very passionate and protective of this fantastic product! I have been collecting Heritage since it came out and believe there is nothing more challenging and rewarding from a collector point of view.
I do believe sometimes the printed word can be misleading - I made a comment about strike while the iron is hot - I don't sell on ebay but do monitor sales - as Kevin said, you can always sell your stuff all year round but of course there is a small window to get "top" dollar. I know Steve Winpitcher very well from a board point of view and like him very much as I do Kevin "Joe" and am saddened by these kind of confrontations. I don't think Win meant anything negative and I personally didn't perceive it that way. But, IMO, this is part of the game here, on occasion, and I would not stick around if I didn't think good people will do good things and this will be forgotten.
In closing, passion notwithstanding, there isn't a better source for knowledge on these products than JoeStalin. And, IMO, Winpitcher is also one of the good guys with a lot to offer in terms of knowledge on these boards. Just my 2 cents while at work.
Thanx, Mike
<< <i>and am saddened by these kind of confrontations. >>
yeah but you gotta love these arguments/debates once in awhile.. they're always entertaining..
<He doesnt do this for a living>
1 Ive never been burned on anything that Ive bought
2 Ive run a retail baseball card store for almost 10 years
you have yet to prove where I stated that all modern was junk joe, how come?
One other factor needs to be taken into account for sets more than a few months old: after Beckett stops listing detailed information in the magazine about the particulars of variation SPs and the like, some of these cards start being sold as the common version by sellers who don't know any better. Since some smart buyers search out poor listings such as these, the demand for the "semi-tough" cards appears lower still.
Nick
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