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Can I Dethrown The Mighty FB By October?

Lets hear what the board has to say about my odds...1972 Topps, who's on top by Halloween????

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  • packCollectorpackCollector Posts: 2,786 ✭✭✭
    after months of negativity , frustration and not so good reading ; this board has taken a turn to the light with some great new posts and bringing out what it's all about : competition , collecting and fun image

    EO, I know you have the will and determination but I don't know if you can get the mighty FB. The $5 special most likely brought out a few more 9's for you to add buy with that nearing completion I think things will slow down on the availability of the keys in your final stretch to conquer such a mighty set in all PSA9 or better. i have no doubt you will get there but halloween is going to be tough.
  • mikeschmidtmikeschmidt Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭
    Eric:

    In my mind - it's all about the 10s. I don't honestly think that you will finish your set off in 9s by Halloween. Are you going/willing to take some 8s to fill in holes? Also, are you willing to pony up for 10s? I imagine that if you start soliciting 10s with vigor - you can continue to beef up - and some of the stars you need should be fairly easy to get in 8 if you are willing to fill in holes.

    I know one person who has a 1/1 PSA 10 that they are probably willing to sell/trad image
    I am actively buying MIKE SCHMIDT gem mint baseball cards. Also looking for any 19th century cabinets of Philadephia Nationals. Please PM with additional details.
  • 19541954 Posts: 2,898 ✭✭✭
    Go Eric Go! Let the games begin.

    1954
    Looking for high grade rookie cards and unopened boxes/cases
  • If the esteemed Mr. Bakka wishes to sell off any of his 1969s in order to fund the defense of his throne, I'd be willing to assist him in the battle! image
  • Go Eric,

    Competition is fun especially if your collecting something that you like. Just don't let that competition get too expensive on eBay. image

    I'm still looking up at Con40 in the Nolan Ryan Master set. Watch out though, if I stay employed through to October it might get interesting. image

    Have fun,

    Scott Jeanblanc
    jeanblanc@iconnect.net
    Ebay UserId : sjeanblanc
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    Collecting Nolan Ryan cards (68-94)


  • EO

    the race has been over for a long time now . no one will knock FB out of first unless he chooses to let them. If you have watched the set building going on for the last year He has spent the money on 10's allowing others to pick up the 9's at huge prices . After the 3rd 9 hits ebay he picks it up for a fraction of the cost of the first 2. However when a 10 hits he is the premier bidder most of the time .
  • BasiloneBasilone Posts: 2,492 ✭✭
    If I was FB....

    1.) I would first close off my set for viewing (if it hasnt been done already)

    2.) I would have a friend list all the PSA 9s and 10s that EOMINT needs to jump into first and let him bid his a$$ off on them.

    3.) Once the cards are sold...open the set back up, delete the cards, and make a hefty deposit at the bank.

  • EOMINTEOMINT Posts: 349
    I would be happy to take any of the 9s I need off FBs hand for high prices...u act like I dont realize I'm overpaying to complete the set, of course I realize that. Part of collecting is investment and part of it is fun, this is for fun now, I've picked up plenty of other cards at good prices to offset any foolishness I may get into in finishing this baby off.

    To the guys who want me to plug my holes w 8s, I WILL NOT DO IT! This set will remain pure, it will not be tainted by fuzzy corners lol...

    This thing is a beauty, it will never be sold, I will keep it as I do all my cards and pass them on to my kids later on in life. I'm only 30 and dont have kids yet, but I do know that if my dad had kept his cards instead of using them for target practice for his bee bee gun i would have loved it! 52 mantles with bee bee holes ...makes me want to cry.

    EO
  • John,

    Isn't that a little harsh?

    This hasn't turned into a Hatfields and McCoys situation has it?

    Not trying to step in a minefield here, it just seemed like a all in good fun post, unless I missed something between the lines.

    FB seems like a pretty cool guy from the posts I've read over the past year or two, and Eric just seems to be a little impatient with his quest to finish a top shelf 72 set.

    Scott Jeanblanc
    jeanblanc@iconnect.net
    Ebay UserId : sjeanblanc
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    Collecting Nolan Ryan cards (68-94)
  • BasiloneBasilone Posts: 2,492 ✭✭

    I never said you were overpaying for the final cards you need.

    I was just saying if I was FB...I would use your quest as a oppurtunity to maximize my profits.

    Timing is everything..right?
  • BasiloneBasilone Posts: 2,492 ✭✭
    I wasn't trying to be harsh....just looking to maximize profits when the opportunity presents itself.
  • Sorry John,

    I misread step 2), I thought it read "let a friend bid EO's a$$ off" not "let a friend sell the cards and let EO bid his a$$ off".

    my bad, got to learn how to read.

    Sorry,

    Scott Jeanblanc
    jeanblanc@iconnect.net
    Ebay UserId : sjeanblanc
    ----------------------------------------------
    Collecting Nolan Ryan cards (68-94)
  • Basilone

    Andy Montero did the exact thing you are suggesting when big bidder PSUinNYC came on the scene . He cashed out and bought back the cards for a fraction of what he sold them for. However the wild card in this case is that with this set for EO & FB sentimental value far out weighs the obvious economic benefits of what you are suggesting to them
  • aconteaconte Posts: 2,053 ✭✭✭


    << <i>just looking to maximize profits when the opportunity presents itself. >>



    Not everyone has this as their only goal in this hobby.

    aconte
  • mikeschmidtmikeschmidt Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭


    << <i>
    To the guys who want me to plug my holes w 8s, I WILL NOT DO IT! This set will remain pure, it will not be tainted by fuzzy corners lol...
    >>



    Well, Eric - from an outsider's perspective, then, I just can't see you knocking FB off anytime soon. That is AWESOME that you are staying on strictly 9s - but I feel to see any plausible scenario by which you could even catch up to a 9.00 average weighting by Halloween. Each hole in your set is probably worth a good .01 or something silly like that. There won't be too many 10s out there - and, as someone who has been building an 8 or better set for over 5 years now - I can attest that those last few cards will haunt you and cause you to annoy the heck out of every dealer/friend/collector imaginable in the final chase for those last few cards.

    Best of luck-
    ms
    I am actively buying MIKE SCHMIDT gem mint baseball cards. Also looking for any 19th century cabinets of Philadephia Nationals. Please PM with additional details.
  • BasiloneBasilone Posts: 2,492 ✭✭


    << <i>Not everyone has this as their only goal in this hobby. >>



    Tony-

    I never said it is or should be anyone's "only goal". Please do not put words in my mouth.

    In fact your choice of having your cards graded in SGC slabs clearly illustrates this point.

    JOhn
  • NeilDowneyNeilDowney Posts: 840 ✭✭
    Hi Guys, Just a humble opinion from a former (and first) Fab Five member. I don't think that EO will ever catch "The Great Frank Bakka". Frank was the master at putting together the best 1972 Topps set on earth. His plan is sound for the future. Nice and steady, through thick and thin he has upgraded his set. It is fun to watch EO and Frank battle all this time. However, I think that this halloween and next halloween and the next after that, Frank will still have the best 1972 Topps set on the planet. There's a reason that he's called "The Great Frank Bakka" - because he is!! Neil
  • I can only hope that all our trash talk over on '66 FB has helped spur on this challenge though we are yet to hear from The Great One himself.
    It is one thing to sneak up on the Bear and shoot him. Not easy but do able. Your approach of screaming at him, getting his attention and then charging with a switch in hand, is a valid approach but one that might make it more challenging. Now, I'm sure he knew you were clsoing in anyway, but a bold move to announce it. In our case, Mike has no prayer. Not now, not next year, or the year after. He will have to wait until the top sets are scattered to the wind I'm afraid.
    I will vote for FB for this year. Only because as a "Gamesman" myself, I don't think you can plug enough of the holes fast enough. If you were to take a few "Fuzzies" then maybe. Without it, I don't think so. For 2005. I see Vegas has the current odds as EVEN.
    Good Luck,
    Fuzz
    Wanted: Bell Brands FB and BB, Chiefs regionals especially those ugly milk cards, Coke caps, Topps and Fleer inserts and test issues from the 60's. 1981 FB Rack pack w/ Jan Stenerud on top.
  • EOMINTEOMINT Posts: 349
    Neil,

    Frank is Babe Ruth and I'm Barry Bonds (ex the roids)...it is DESTINY!!!
  • BugOnTheRugBugOnTheRug Posts: 1,611 ✭✭✭
    EO,
    I thinks it's cool that the gauntlet has been dropped. Nothing like laying it right out in front for all to see.

    However, I'll be rooting for Frank only because I like the colors of his icon better.

    Let the games begin!!!!

    BOTR

    ps) If you can find the Blue and Schaal IA's in 9 nq before Halloween (or even whenever), you deserve a magic carpet ride.
  • jackstrawjackstraw Posts: 3,762 ✭✭✭
    1 of 1 that i can't imagine eric didn't make a generous offer and the seller couldn't resist?
    Collector Focus

    ON ITS WAY TO NEWPORT BEACH, CA 92658
  • KING KELLOGGKING KELLOGG Posts: 1,158 ✭✭✭
    EOMINT.....


    Eric.... You're 30 and no kids?????

    (No wonder you have some money to spend..imageimageimageimageimage.....)


    Best of luck on your chase.....It'll be up hill all the way....



    Larry



    I LOVE FANCY CURRENCY, pretty girls, Disney Dollars, pretty girls, MPC's, ..did I mention pretty girls???

    email....emards4457@msn.com


    CHEERS!!
  • FBFB Posts: 1,684 ✭✭
    I think that "Great One" or "mighty" are being tossed around pretty lightly in terms of my name...

    Yes - I've got a pretty nice 72 set that I've been building slowly and steadily over the years and yes - I've been watching Eric climb from 25th spot to 16th, to Top 10 and now he is on the verge of taking over the #2 spot - leaving nothing between us but about a .55 set rating.

    I'll be honest... I don't expect to be able to hold onto this title forever. It might be Eric, it might eventually be Chris Renaud. Heck - it could eventually be someone who hasn't even started this set yet. But, for the couple of years that I've held it - its been fun!

    But, back to whether it'll be Eo or Meo in the fall...

    There are currently around 8 cards that still don't have a PSA 9 graded in the 72 set - I won't even count cards where the 1 of 1's are in mine or someone elses set. But, lets just suppose that those 8 cards remain without a 9 by the fall. The set will be at 9.03 or 9.04 GPA with a set rating of 8.94. He needs to get within 3 cards of completion for a 9.00 set rating. So, without 8’s – its going to be tough.

    Although… the 72’s have been increasing in pop very quickly lately – so, you never know…

    Good luck! A little competition never hurt anyone!
    Frank Bakka
    Sets - 1970, 1971 and 1972
    Always looking for 1972 O-PEE-CHEE Baseball in PSA 9 or 10!

    lynnfrank@earthlink.net
    outerbankyank on eBay!
  • EOMINTEOMINT Posts: 349
    Usually people root for the underdog, but in this case sentiment seems to be with the great one...keep in mind, I have my share of 10s too...so dont count me out!!!

    And yes Jackstraw, u guessed right on where that Koosman IA now rests...

    EO
  • 1420sports1420sports Posts: 3,473 ✭✭✭
    But, for the couple of years that I've held it - its been fun!

    could not be said any better
    collecting various PSA and SGC cards
  • highendhighend Posts: 534
    FB or EO ? in the long run it may be a tough call, by october it will be tough if not impossible for eric to overtake frank. at the moment eric is still playing catch up while frank is adding to his lead by nailing 10 after 10.
    after the 5 $ special i expected to see the first nines for some of the truly tough cards.......it hasn't happened. i can't recall EVER seeing any of those cards meeting the centering criteria for PSA 9 let alone overall condition. it should be noted that it can be a VERY fine line between a PSA 8 and a PSA 9.
    it's fun to watch eric's dogged determination and frank's steady progress develop into two INCREDIBLE sets. both frank and eric have provided TREMENDOUS gains for me in my quest to climb the 72 mountain, while i know that i will never reach the lofty height of a 9.00 set rating, frank's words may prove prophetic one day a guy like renaud or even PSUINNYC could seize the top spot but for now stay tuned for an epic battle!!! good luck guys
  • FBFB Posts: 1,684 ✭✭
    Jim,

    I forgot about PSUINNYC (Brian Long) for the moment. He's currently at around 84 - 85% complete with a lower GPA than Eric but I think that he's working on too many sets to really concentrate on knocking off either one of us at the moment.

    Eric - you should thank me on the Koosman IA. While I originally made a decent offer on the card when I knew that he had it - he turned me down. When I was in his shop, Bob told me that since it was a 1/1 he was going to put it on eBay - I told what I felt the results would be on the auction and that I would be the 2nd runner up. I told him that nobody was paying more than you these days on 72 PSA 9's that you needed. So, it looks like he reached the same conclusion and made the deal.

    Howitallbegan - absofrigginlutely dead on... and there is definitely some sentiment but not enough to mortgage the house.
    Frank Bakka
    Sets - 1970, 1971 and 1972
    Always looking for 1972 O-PEE-CHEE Baseball in PSA 9 or 10!

    lynnfrank@earthlink.net
    outerbankyank on eBay!
  • achteyachtey Posts: 304 ✭✭✭
    I'd like to win one of the sets I'm competing in but my funds are alot lower then most. So, the only way I'll win one is to bump my reggie white set up, lol.

    Josh
    The world meets no one half way. If you want it you have to go get it.
  • pcpc Posts: 743
    i vote yes.all eric has to do is buy out fb.
    Money is your ticket to freedom.
  • highendhighend Posts: 534
    frank- does PSUINNYC ever intend to register any of his sets? judging from his EBAY winnings i'm sure he has a very nice run of 70's material.

    pc- if eric bought frank out it would kind be like winning the title on a forfeit and he still wouldn't be at 100%
  • mcastaldimcastaldi Posts: 1,202 ✭✭✭
    PC> That strategy wouldn't work because Eric has already said he has no interest in any PSA8s. As Frank mentioned, there are 8 cards in the set with no PSA9s. Even if Eric is short only those eight cards, his set rating would still come up short at his current GPA. The only way Eric could do it and be missing those 8 cards that have no 9s would be for him to upgrade a good number of his 9s to 10s. That said, Eric won't be giving up any time soon image

    Mike
    So full of action, my name should be a verb.
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