Potential Lost Cards

Fuzz

From time to time, the delivery service (regardless of who you use) will occasionally misplace a package. Unfortunately some of the time, these will contain PSA graded cards.
Does PSA offer any kind of "service", if you will, to track these lost cert. #'s in case they ever show up again? The dealer has promptly offered a refund and I am certain that he sent the card. Has anybody ever come up with a cleaver way to try to reclaim these ??
Fuzz

Buckwheat

If you have a registry set, you can put the card # in your set, and if anyone else tries to register it, it will show up. You could even start up a new set with only one entry.

Fuzz

Ole Doctor Buck,
I had thought of that but there appears to be a few minor issues.
When the card shows up, it may become a he said/she/said sort of case that is not clear and will be difficult to sort out at the time with no clear arbitor. I would like to file all the documentation PRIOR to the card showing up with someone like PSA who could be potentially at least be a witness if the dispute warrants.
Secondly, If you accept a refund from the dealer who will claim against insurance, then you have no title to the card at that point. It would belong to the insurer.
Lastly, I believe that is a clear violation of the registery set rules by registering a card you do not have in your possession, even if you don't take the refund.
Fuzz

packCollector

fuzz, great question , I recently had contents stolen from a package from the ups and would like to cover all my bases if these appear somewhere again,

secondly this is another question I am curious about

"Secondly, If you accept a refund from the dealer who will claim against insurance, then you have no title to the card at that point. It would belong to the insurer."

in this case who should be out the money in the interum while an insurance claim is taking place?

Fuzz

Packcollector (or should I say opener -- cause I have some pack fresh cards that came from your direction),
Anyway,
I believe that it is accepted business custom that the seller is the one who is "out the money" while the refund is occuring. The seller is actually the owner of the insurance in most cases not the purchaser and in most cases the claim can only be initiated by the sender. If the sender is the one who would receive the refund and then should be out the money as a cost of doing business. Though if I recall, my last postal claim worked exactly backwards from this description.
I think most professional dealers, would eat the "time to refund" and keep the customer satisfaction high.
Fuzz

SKINSFAN

Fuzz 1st my i say say i am sorry this happened. I think if you buy enough cards though its only a matter of time before the % are bound catch up to you.

As for your question it is a very good one.

Just a idea here but maybe psa could help us by starting there own set on the reg call lost and found or something to that nature. If the seller and buyer both agree that card is mia a scan from sale can be sent to psa and they list it on there master set then if anyone ever tries to reg it psa could notify the org seller and buyer and let them take whatever recourse they can.Even if card is not attemped to be reg but sold on ebay or where ever a independent record will exist of the card sale.You will of course also have the record of the ins claim to back you up and maybe able to file legal charges

Fuzz

Art,
Thanks for the thought, however after "brief delay" the package did show up today adorned with numerous post office stickers as to "forwarding problems" and "return to sender stuff". It was addressed clearly and correctly. So this leaves me in quest of one card, #132 for my 8NQ+ set. And I am still waiting for the Mastronet package which should be here soon as I got shipment notification last week.
I had a similar idea though I do see a few issues with it. PSA certainly could be very helpful but I'm sure they don't want to be policeman. I am putting together a note to Joe O. and will include it in there.
Fuzz