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I'm putting together a month end submission and came across some nice 1987 Ralston Nolan Ryans - couldn't find it in SMR, Pop report, or even the Ryan master set that Mudflap linked a few days ago. What's up with this card? Does it really exist or am I, my god, in the, in the....have I just stepped into the twilight zone?image

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Mark (amerbbcards)


"All evil needs to triumph is for good men to do nothing."

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  • If it isn't listed, it does not exist.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    I have seen that set. The hats are airbrushed out if I remm correctly. it was sanctioned only by the players association not MLB company's would do that to save some fees.
    Good for you.
  • MorrellManMorrellMan Posts: 3,238 ✭✭✭
    Hmmm - interesting point. The '84 Ralston cards were issued with Topps, logos on hats, licensed issue; the '87s were issued with Mike Shecter, no logos, no licensing (?) - I loved the '87 Kraft cards too, but I'm guessing neither issue is gradable through PSA - is that correct?
    Mark (amerbbcards)


    "All evil needs to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
  • CON40CON40 Posts: 1,324 ✭✭✭
    Did someone say Nolan Ryan?? The new thread title defintiely caught my attention!

    Morrelman is correct... this is an MSA issue and is readily available. It is listed in the big Beckett in the 1987 Ralston Purina Star Lineup set. I have a few of them. The most intersting thing is that they are a bit shorter than a standard card. I dunno why. Any ideas?

    Sorry to dampen your hopes of having a really scarce Ryan! image
  • The Nolan Ryan Master set is far and away not complete. We (Nolan Ryan Players set members) are working to compile a complete list of his cards from 1968 - 1994 that PSA will grade and this card is in my list.

    The 1987 Ralston Purina Nolan Ryan is listed in the Sports Collectors Digest catalog, so PSA should grade it. As far as I can see on the submission sheet there are no licensing restrictions specified.

    ------Cut from the PSA submission form-------------------------

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    1956 Yellow Basepath pins (PM15)
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    HOCKEY

    1960 Shirriff coins
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    1896 American Pepsin Jockey pins
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    Scott Jeanblanc
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    Collecting Nolan Ryan cards (68-94)
  • CON40CON40 Posts: 1,324 ✭✭✭
    Scott;

    You are locked and loaded! I think the organization of the new master set will be in good hands!
  • DhjacksDhjacks Posts: 343 ✭✭
    I had sent in for the 'Limited Edition Collectors' Sheet' for the '87 set.
    It has a few wrinkles, but it's one of my favorite, sentimental items.
    Fifteen players including Mattingly, Boggs, Ryan, Clemens, Schmidt and Ripken.
    Working on 1969 through 1975 Basketball.
  • MorrellManMorrellMan Posts: 3,238 ✭✭✭
    DHJacks - you're right about the uncut sheets - I sent away for a few of them myself. I really dug those cards - I think they were issued in a cello wrapper inside Cookie Crisp cereal, which I eat an awful lot of in 1987. Cards in or on food boxes really fascinate me - more now than they did when I was a kid - I remember looking at the Post cards in '62, reading them while I ate my cereal, and thinking they were cheap wannabes compared to Topps. That might very well be true; I wish I'd saved some though.
    Mark (amerbbcards)


    "All evil needs to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
  • DhjacksDhjacks Posts: 343 ✭✭
    Lots of fond memories...I just came across the backs of Kelloggs cereal boxes from '77, '78 and '79. Fun to 'go back in time'.
    Working on 1969 through 1975 Basketball.
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