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What are the odds of damaging a coin if you crack it out?

Are the odds better or worse in PCGS/NGC/ANACS/ICG holders? What is the most expensive crackout damage you have caused?
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  • coinlieutenantcoinlieutenant Posts: 9,320 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I have a steady hand and a hard hammer... no damage!!! image
  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    if you excercise minimum common sense, the odds of damage should be almost nil. on the other hand, if you're doing it out in the shed with the holder gripped in a vice, or smacking it with a hammer, or any other number of ways, the odds go up.

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  • BikingnutBikingnut Posts: 3,422 ✭✭✭✭
    If you are careful about it, no risk at all.
    US Navy CWO3 retired. 12/81-09/04

    Looking for PCGS AU58 Washington's, 32-63.
  • jbstevenjbsteven Posts: 6,178


    << <i>I have a steady hand and a hard hammer >>



    almost sounds like a line from a porno. image
  • PlacidPlacid Posts: 11,299 ✭✭✭
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  • WaterSportWaterSport Posts: 6,913 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I put a screw driver across the obverse of a 1935 s Lincoln once. The good news is that I was cracking an ACG holder, the bad is that some one still bougt it on Ebay.

    WS
    Proud recipient of the coveted PCGS Forum "You Suck" Award Thursday July 19, 2007 11:33 PM and December 30th, 2011 at 8:50 PM.
  • StuartStuart Posts: 9,793 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>What are the odds of damaging a coin if you crack it out? >>

    A much higher probability than if you leave the coin in it's existing holder image

    Stuart

    Collect 18th & 19th Century US Type Coins, Silver Dollars, $20 Gold Double Eagles and World Crowns & Talers with High Eye Appeal

    "Luck is what happens when Preparation meets Opportunity"
  • mozeppamozeppa Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭
    i cut mine out with a band saw....no cracking or hammering
  • I wrecked one in about 500-600, it was carelessness.
    "Wars are really ugly! They're dirty
    and they're cold.
    I don't want nobody to shoot me in the foxhole."
    Mary






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  • 410a410a Posts: 1,325
    I had one in an NGC holder. 1916s Buff 5c pretty coin. I have a straight thru miter box with arm saw. Smooth and clean. Except I let
    go of the trigger one day too soon and caught the holder
    soft plastic insert which winged the whole deal in a knot
    flying through the garage. My God what a heart beat I had and
    hope against all odds there was no damage. A few days later, I managed to find the coin.
    Now, mind you one of the numismatic geniuses talked about
    this method of opening the coin holders and I needed the coin
    for a display of twentieth century type consisting of a bit better
    dates 32d quarter etc.....
    Oh, yeah the good news was my heart had settled down. The
    bad news is I have one heck of nice Buffalo nickel in MS 63 with
    a serious 1/16 inch ding on the indians large feather.
    I don't crack too often and usually only with really good reason
    and I never had a problem with a light tapping by a 16 oz ball
    pean hammer about the edges and the holder gives up the goods just fine. Regards, Michael
  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm sure it happens every once in a while. Probably a slip of the screwdriver did this

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  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,799 ✭✭✭✭✭
    My favorite personal crackout story is of an ICG MS-63 1907 Saint that I bought in late 2002 on ebay. It was one of my first (of about a half-dozen) crackouts. As I was trying to pry the coin out of the holder, it flew up in the air and dropped into the garbage can. I would swear that there was a new mark in the right obverse field. Nonetheless, I packed it up with my three other Collector Club submissions and sent it to PCGS. It graded MS-64, which is a significant price jump from the 63. I ended up selling the coin in a Scotsman auction and made about $300 on it.

  • rainbowroosierainbowroosie Posts: 4,875 ✭✭✭✭
    Keets has nailed it.
    "You keep your 1804 dollar and 1822 half eagle -- give me rainbow roosies in MS68."
    rainbowroosie April 1, 2003
  • relayerrelayer Posts: 10,570

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  • poorguypoorguy Posts: 4,317
    I only cracked out 2 coins and they are at PCGS now for my free submissions. They were my first attempt at cracking. One was a $20 gold liberty 1899 NGC graded MS62 but it has to be at least an MS63 and the other was an old generation NGC 1881-S MS65 that I hope will grade MS67PL. Fingers crossed. I didn't have any vices or hammer but I did have a large plumber's wrench. I put the tip of the pinchers on the edge of the holders and squeezed real hard till I heard it crack. I did this along 3 sides of the holder and it opened like a book for both of them. The old NGC holders crack real easy. With the new ones, I had to pry open with a screwdriver because they kind of mushed in instead of cracking. I had to crack off a corner and slide a flat-head screwdriver into it and twist it along all the edges. When I got close to the $20 liberty, I got really nervous. I never touched it thouh.

    The only accident I have had with these 2 experiences is a piece of the Old NGC holder flying toward my face and hitting me in the eye. I never had my eye bleed before. It hurt like hell but I am fine now. WEAR SAFETY GOGGLES!!

    Brandon Kelley - ANA - 972.746.9193 - http://www.bestofyesterdaycollectibles.com
  • haletjhaletj Posts: 2,192
    I've safely cracked out about 10 coins now. I learned from a local dealer. He said he once cut right into the rim of some really tough date high grade MS Morgan Dollar with wire snips.


  • Think about the force it takes to crack that slab and then read my post-"How does this happen"
  • I sent a 1953 PCGS PR68 Franklin to PCI. The reason for doing so, was that PCGS did not grade the coin as a cameo, as it most definitely was. When the coin was returned to me as a PR68DCAM from PCI, I was delighted until I noticed that they somehow caused a sizeable nick on the obverse side, directly below Franklin. I sent them photographs of the coin in its original PCGS holder and they agreed that they were responsible. They ended up buying the coin from me at the full price that I had paid for it on eBay.

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