A compelling argument for using BCCG
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Check out the hammer price on this beaut (auction number 4121435901). This guy had to be doing handstands when the auction closed. At least the reserve was met.
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<< <i>same company, same grade, but different grading standards? >>
Goodriddance
I never followed the emergence of the different Beckett subsidiaries - why did they split into so many groups? Doesn't it just confuse the situation. And what about a grade 10 (mint or better) - either it's a 9 or 10 - I know it has something to do with new cards and what younger hobbyists might choose...
I know we have some knowlegeabe PSA and Beckett people - a little help with this one would be appreciated.
Thanx, in advance - just curious - and BTW, this is NOT a Beckett vs. PSA question/challenge.
Mike
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by the way, i was flipping through the channels last night, quite drunk, and stumbled across ole Ken selling crap on one of those paid hour long Fox Sports shop at home programs. i'm lucky to be alive today, because i damned near died laughing on several occasions. i forgot how hilarious late night cable sports card shows are
they really did have a good thing going with the original BGS. name recognition+ very strict grading (and consistent) grading standards....BGS used to be a solid choice. now it's just a mess. i think that when the younger generation who still buys BGS graded cards finally starts to see what a farce Beckett is, they'll go out of business pronto
<< <i>stumbled across ole Ken selling crap on one of those paid hour long Fox Sports shop at home programs. i'm lucky to be alive today, because i damned near died laughing on several occasions. i forgot how hilarious late night cable sports card shows are >>
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I caught part of that too! He was selling some Lebron crap holdered by World Class Grading or something like that! Remember when he used to come on Shop at Home screaming how you were getting the DEAL of the century! Ya gotta say, he Can sell!
BTW, thanx for the information - I believe in the world of modern cards, there's a place for Beckett.
As long as they don't shoot themselves in the foot.
Mike
Kobe-- I used to agree, but now I'm not so sure. A lot of the guys buying this stuff have feedback ratings of 100+, which suggests that they've been around for a while; as such, you'd think they would know the gimmick behind BCCG. I'm starting to assume that a lot of these guys just like getting a '10' holder for a low price, or have deluded themselves into believing that they're getting a product on par with PSA, SGC, etc.
<< <i>i think that when the younger generation who still buys BGS graded cards finally starts to see what a farce Beckett is, they'll go out of business pronto >>
That statement is absolutly wrong. If Beckett goes out of business the card market will take a beating. These are the guys who produce the price guides (even though alot of people don't use them they are still important to the industry). Beckett is here to stay even though PSA diehards treat them like the plague. For modern cards there is no better way to go...you make more profit having your modern issues in a BGS holder. As for BVG, they basically made that because they graded cards so hard that they had to adjust for things such as rough cuts and different paper stock. BCCG is crap and basically the only people buying those cards have not done their research. If they are buying the cards for an investment then I'm sure they would look into companies like PSA and BGS holders. BCCG is just a cheaper method of getting a card that might cost you a whole lot more. Besides, I've seen enough people cracking them out of the BCCG holders and getting decent grades.
So my point is BGS is a valuable company and even if PSA collectors don't like them they are still important (if there was only PSA their grading prices would have gone through the roof from greed). I like having choices to submit my cards....I wish SGC didn't fall down the chart because I did like their holders and service. Never tried GAI but they seem to sell alright.
I found these two and sent them to PSA Crossover inside the BCCG holders and these were the results:
1975 SSPC #593 Catfish Hunter / Noland Ryan Checklist (Error) BCCG 10 -> Now a PSA 10 1 of 1
1985 Topps All-Time Record Holders #32 Nolan Ryan BCCG 10 -> Now a PSA 10 1 of 1 listed under Woolworth for some reason in the Pop report.
Both cards looked from the front photo to be well centered with good corners. Like anything if you do some investigating you can find diamonds in piles of trash. Both of these made nice additions to my Nolan Ryan Master collection. The 1975 SSPC I got for $5 and the 85 I got for $2. Buying some BCCG's can work out a lot better than buying raw unseen cards.
Scott Jeanblanc
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Steve
I've actually also had good luck with bccg - much better luck than I've had with GAI and SGC for modern cards - but I only purchased cards that had huge scans. However, I wasn't as careful with some of my sgc and gai purchases, and the 8.5's and 92's I bought were equivalent to psa 7's or low-end 8's at best.
A $120 investment, including free shipping to the buyer, turned into $350 in three days.
Maybe a Goldin deal can be profitable once on a while?
Don't get me wrong, most of it is laughable and not worth the effort.
"BECKETT GRADED 10 ! A TEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN ! THIS MUST BE A MISTAKE, THESE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE $999 NOT $99 BUT WE ALREADY SHOWED IT SO WE ARE BLOWING THESE OUT !" -Don West
That is how it happened.