Hello World & 1736 A/I Brit Farthing

Teg

First post from a Brit Farthing collector.
Cracking forum - the only problem is that now you have two Welsh Copper Fans.
However, Lloyd Roberts Knows what he is talking about - and -
I know nothing - except a bit about farthings.
There is an 1736 A/I in Britannia on E-Bay
1736 A/I
I have a few of these coins- anyone else know of any specimens?
How cool are they!
(Hope the link works)

Posh Sig and Avat. to follow!

MacCrimmon

Welcome, Teg! Nice rare variety!

trozau

Welcome!

Sylvestius

<< <i>First post from a Brit Farthing collector.
Cracking forum - the only problem is that now you have two Welsh Copper Fans.
However, Lloyd Roberts Knows what he is talking about - and -
I know nothing - except a bit about farthings.
There is an 1736 A/I in Britannia on E-Bay
1736 A/I
I have a few of these coins- anyone else know of any specimens?
How cool are they!
(Hope the link works)

Posh Sig and Avat. to follow! >>



Ah farthings, not really my area but i do have a decent 1684 one!

coinkat

Welcome and I agree with you... Lloyd knows his copper as well as other areas of World coinage. Unfortunately, I don't know much about all the farthing varieties, but I am pleased that there is interest.

wybrit

Welcome to the site, Teg!

I collect farthings in some detail, but only Victorian and post-Victorian.

Lloyd

Ha Ha... Someone to talk to

I am having an enforced absence from the internet due to intense building and renovation work, so I wont be back for a week or so.... See you soon.

BTW as far as the A/I 1736 is concerned, the problem is that it isn't listed anywhere. When I first started collecting I used to think "unrecorded" was cool until I realized that everyone was trying to fill the Peck and Spinks templates. £150 is really pushing it, unless the farthing dealer he's talking about comes and buys it after having MADE it a variety. So the winnner of the coin will be ...................

L

cosmicdebris

Welcome aboard Teg!

Teg

Thanks for the welcome!
A decent 1684 farthing - sylvestius - all tin is tough to get in good grades. Got a picture?
Hi Wybrit, seen your site - some good work there. I collect all Brit. farthings - the weakest part of the collection is Queen Vic, but I am sure it will get there slowly.
Back to the 1736 A/I farthing. Lloyd, you are correct that a certain dealer does have the ability to "make" a variety, (seven varieties of 1881 H!). He has sold one of these coins; he must have one in his collection; there is one in a collection that he bought some years ago.
As I mentioned I have a few of these:-

So not that rare perhaps - perhaps rare on good grades.
The reason I have so many, is that there is so much going on with the dies.
Obverse - die flaw from O to Georges mouth - looks a bit like cartoon speech bubble!
Reverse - die flaw through the date, 3 over 3 in date, other die flaws and bits of extra metal, and of coarse A/I in Britannia.
It's great to be able to see a group of George II and know they are from exactly the same die pairs. You can tell what was on the coins to start with - and what is subsequent damage. Also interesting to see the die flaws get worse.
Observations:-
Why is the last A over an I, same as a 1719 variety ? Is it a die maker's mark instead?
Obverse and reverse dies are supposed to wear out at different rates. This is one of many examples were you never find the exact same O or R with a different O or R. Anyone know of any examples different to this?
Better stop now this must be boring for 99.99999999% of humankind - I must get out more!

coachleonard

Farthings make a good collection-- I had just accumulated a few old farthings of diff. monarchs going back to James I when I noticed I was coming up with a pretty good farthing-by-monarch collection. Still after that Anne one though!

Sylvestius

Looks at the link below for a picture of that tin farthing, some corrosion around the edges but pretty decent detail left one the obverse.

lordmarcovan

<< <i>Better stop now this must be boring for 99.99999999% of humankind - I must get out more! >>



Hmm. I must be in a very small minority, then.

Love the coins in that picture, particularly that nice light brown one at top left. To judge from its patina, the bottom right one was almost certainly dug, which, being a detectorist, I find interesting.

King George coppers turn up in the dirt here, fairly often. (I live in the former colony which was named for George II.)

I saw a pretty decent George II farthing (relatively high grade, but harshly cleaned) in the museum at the Wormsloe historic site near Savannah, which had been dug from the foundations of the fortified house there. I think the coin was dated 1754- the house was from the same era.

Personally, I've only dug two King George coppers around here, and neither is anything exceptional (but fun finds!) One is a George II halfpenny, the other a George III Irish halfpenny. Other folks have turned up some much nicer ones. Most found around here seem to be George II halfpennies. The only dug farthing I can recall seeing is the Wormsloe piece.

Lloyd

LordM - the irish coin is definitely a counterfeit.

Good thread and I wish I had more time..

And Teg .... Good pictures.

EDIT TO ADD: LordM the counterfeit is worth more than the Regal.... Great competitive market for all the George II/III forgeries.

L

1jester

"Better stop now this must be boring for 99.99999999% of humankind..." --Teg

First of all, a warm welcome to you sir! I'm glad you're here with your very interesting coins and expansive knowledge.

As to the above quote, it looks like you're going to give the Dead King a run for his money...

wybrit

There are a few boring members here, but none of them have posted to this thread yet. You're in luck!

MacCrimmon

<< <i> There are a few boring members here, but none of them have posted to this thread yet. >>

Askari

Welcome Teg -- and cheers!!