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Anyone want any PSA 10 Clementes?....Mile High has got'em

BasiloneBasilone Posts: 2,492 ✭✭
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WOW!

The MHCC sale features an amazing selection of high-grade singles and sets highlighted by:
1957 Topps Roberto Clemente PSA 10 GEM MINT,
1961 Topps Roberto Clemente PSA 10 GEM MINT,
1969 Topps Roberto Clemente PSA 10 GEM MINT,
1970 Topps Roberto Clemente PSA 10 GEM MINT,
1958 Topps Roberto Clemente PSA 9 MINT,
1951 Bowman Mickey Mantle PSA 9 MINT,
1954 Red Heart Mickey Mantle PSA 9 MINT,
1956 Topps Mickey Mantle PSA 9 MINT,
and a 1968 Topps Mickey Mantle PSA 10 GEM MINT

Comments

  • BugOnTheRugBugOnTheRug Posts: 1,611 ✭✭✭
    Nice group, but it won't cut it as I'm looking for Clemente's in PSA 11.

    BOTR
  • mikeschmidtmikeschmidt Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭
    John:

    A very interesting group of cards. Do you know the source/any additional information on the 1952 Bowman Mickey Mantle GAI 10 Perfect card? I am wondering if this was the second (mysterious) PSA 10 that had existed. Freaky how these timing issues work, though.

    Peter Garcia's PSA 10 is being auctioned off in the Robert Edwards Auction - and now it looks like this second GEM Mantle from the same issue is available at the same time. I wonder if this won't have a big negative impact on prices realized. People don't often recognize just how thin the market is at the top - and the number of individuals willing to put up $50,000+ or whatever for a GEM MINT Mantle card are few and far between. Put the two best examples in the hobby in the market at the same time - seems like the consignors/sellers lose...
    I am actively buying MIKE SCHMIDT gem mint baseball cards. Also looking for any 19th century cabinets of Philadephia Nationals. Please PM with additional details.
  • toppsguntoppsgun Posts: 787 ✭
    That '61 would look mighty good in Buckwheat's set.
  • CDC4CDC4 Posts: 276
    Marc,

    What is Robert Edwards' web site?

    Thanks
    Buying 1957 Baseball PSA 8 or higher. Especially Checklists, and Contest Cards. Topps1957psa8set@aol.com
  • mikeschmidtmikeschmidt Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭
    Click here, Sir
    I am actively buying MIKE SCHMIDT gem mint baseball cards. Also looking for any 19th century cabinets of Philadephia Nationals. Please PM with additional details.
  • BasiloneBasilone Posts: 2,492 ✭✭
    I have no idea whose cards they are....
  • joedeljoedel Posts: 91
    Mikeschmidt,

    If there is a GAI 1952 Bowman Mantle in a 10, then there would be THREE GEM MINT 10's out there. I sold the first PSA GEM MINT 10 1952 Bowman Mantle about 7 years ago. This buyer still has the card, and I have seen it very recently. It is definitely the one card I wish I had back! I have seen the REA PSA 10, and the one I sold has much better eye appeal -- if that can be possible in a GEM MINT 10 card.
  • CDC4CDC4 Posts: 276
    Louis Bollman had the 57 Clemente PSA 10 last summer at the national...I do not remember if he had any of the other cards.
    Buying 1957 Baseball PSA 8 or higher. Especially Checklists, and Contest Cards. Topps1957psa8set@aol.com
  • mikeschmidtmikeschmidt Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Mikeschmidt,

    If there is a GAI 1952 Bowman Mantle in a 10, then there would be THREE GEM MINT 10's out there. I sold the first PSA GEM MINT 10 1952 Bowman Mantle about 7 years ago. This buyer still has the card, and I have seen it very recently. It is definitely the one card I wish I had back! I have seen the REA PSA 10, and the one I sold has much better eye appeal -- if that can be possible in a GEM MINT 10 card. >>



    Joedel:

    Thanks for the insight. It appears, then, that the one you had is not the one that Peter bought. Without insider knowledge - I imagine it is quite a symbiotic relationship in the REA auction. Peter has been willing to sell his 52 Bowman Mantle 10 for some time now. REA is new in the auction circuit (not really new - but first time as a stand alone after the split from Mastro), so they need some premier material. I assume that the consignment rate on that one is just about zero - with potentially downside risk averted through a reserve. Just speculation from my end, of course.

    Here, I believe is a scan of the 1952 Bowman Mantle GAI 10:

    image
    I am actively buying MIKE SCHMIDT gem mint baseball cards. Also looking for any 19th century cabinets of Philadephia Nationals. Please PM with additional details.
  • dudedude Posts: 1,454 ✭✭
    Last time I looked at the Pop Report there are two '69 Clemente PSA 10 's. They had one in their last auction this past November. I wonder if this is the same one or the other one? It would seem a little bit odd to me if the same one appeared again.

    '69 Clemente PSA 10 (Cert # 07084965)
  • kobykoby Posts: 1,699 ✭✭
    Maybe the winner of the auction reneged.
  • BasiloneBasilone Posts: 2,492 ✭✭
    It could very well be the other PSA 10 or the winner wanted to gamble with a quick flip.

    Ive seen more 1969 PSA 10 Clementes up for auction than I have 1965 Topps PSA 8 Al McBeans!


    Taken from their website:

    Do not test our auctions with false bids. This puts you at substantial personal legal risk. Fraudulent bidders will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Currently, both the FBI and the US Secret Service are responsible for investigating all Internet fraud cases.
  • ReidReid Posts: 35 ✭
    There could have been a hidden reserve or maybe the consignor shilled it too high.
  • kobykoby Posts: 1,699 ✭✭
    I guess there is nothing in the rules that forbid hidden reserves or simply refusing to sell to the highest bidder.


    Do other auction houses like Mastro or Robert Edwards have similar policies?


  • BuckwheatBuckwheat Posts: 644 ✭
    I guess I am going to have to take out another loan. Or sell my first born. AARRRRGGGGG.
    Ole Doctor Buck of the Popes of Hell

  • joedeljoedel Posts: 91
    Koby,

    I don't think either of those two auction companies have hidden reserves, but you might want to check their rules. As for Superior.......1971 Rose

    Check out the description about 3/4 of the way down. It states "Superior sports listed this in their spring fling auction and did not receive enough for my personal “reserve” so now I have her back and I am going to try Ebay." This is not the only card this consignor had "personal reserves" with, as he had many of the PSA MINT 9 Rose cards in that recent auction.

  • BasiloneBasilone Posts: 2,492 ✭✭

    Maybe I'm missing something...

    It seems to me that if a card has a "reserve" placed on it by the consignor...there is no mention of it either in the catalougue or online.

    Is that correct?
  • joedeljoedel Posts: 91
    Dude,

    I have seen an advanced copy of the description in the current Mile High auction for the 1969 Clemente PSA 10. Brian Drent specifically states that this card is NOT the same card from the last auction. The cert on this new card is #09096306. The cert on the earlier card is #07084965.

    There are also no hidden reserves on this auction.

    joe
  • dudedude Posts: 1,454 ✭✭
    Thanks Joe! I do know one dealer had both at one time not too long ago, so this is not a big surprise.
  • PlayBallPlayBall Posts: 463 ✭✭✭

    Mile High also brings up something that, until today, I was unaware of happening.....

    Lot #70 - 1941 Play Ball #71 Joe DiMaggio GAI 7

    This tremendous pasteboard was issued in 1941 during a tumultuous time in the history of America with the country at war. During the summer of '41 Joe D. helped ease the pain of the country by hitting a country captivating .406

    Stupid me always thought that was Ted Williams.image
    Bernie Carlen



    Currently collecting.....your guess is as good as mine.
  • MachodocMachodoc Posts: 541 ✭
    Stupid me, I always thought America didn't go to war until December 1941. Last time I checked, the 1941 season had ended a few months before that...
  • savemoneycardssavemoneycards Posts: 31
    MILE HIGH CARD COMPANY MIGHT HAVE SOME TRIMMED CARDS FOR SALE???
    CHECK THIS OUT!!!
    These are some of the cards in there Auction on May 19th.
    It does make you think twice.image


    1957 Topps Roberto Clemente PSA 10 GEM MINT, serial #02067607 look at sub before this one 02067606

    1970 Topps Roberto Clemente PSA 10 GEM MINT serial # 50024410 look at next sub. Not Holdered, Evidence of Trimming 50024411

    1953 topps #31 Blackwell PSA 10 #50020033 look at next 50020034


    1952 Bowman Larg Tom Landry PSA 10 #05253909 NEXT #05253910

    1985 Jim Kelly USFL PSA 10 #30510471 next 30510472

    What do you think???
  • pcpc Posts: 743 ✭
    i think the 57 clemente 10 has more snow
    than mount everest.image
    Money is your ticket to freedom.
  • murcerfanmurcerfan Posts: 2,329 ✭✭
    The images of the cards appearing in Mile High's catalog and web-site appear to have avoided
    any photoshop work. With that in mind, I can live with a few editorial oversights any day of the week.
  • jrdolanjrdolan Posts: 2,549 ✭✭
    Is savemoneycards suspicious that the seller submitted a bunch of trimmed cards to PSA and some of them got 10 Gem Mint grades? I find that hard to imagine. At least I think I do. PRO, yes. That is their stock in trade, such as it is.

    As for reserves, Derek Grady at Mastro told me they don't allow it. Though I suppose a consignor could bid on his own items if he wanted to fake his identity. I imagine there would be unpleasantness if he actually won the item in order to keep it from going cheaper.
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