To post images or not -- a DEALER wants to know?

coingame2000

Thanks to a large and varied inventory, I am in a position to regularly post images of some extraordinarily cool coins on this forum. I have been rather reluctant to do so because of the criticism on the part of some board members for what they perceive as dealer self promotion. The few times that I have posted images, they were of coins that for the most part were either sold or already promised to a customer. In one instance, a board member PM'd me in regard to the availability of a dollar that I posted so I PM'd him back and told him that the piece was on currently hold but I would let him know if the status changed. About a week later I PM'd him and told him that the coin was now available and a short time later he was complaining on this forum about dealers promoting the sale of their coins by posting images. To be honest, I felt like I was set up. I am very interested in anyone's thoughts on this matter.

Thanks,

Mike

JrGMan2004

I enjoy seeing cool coins that a dealer might have in their inventory. Of course, if you're like, I Have such and such coin for sale, check it out... yeah, that's bad... but if it's just a "Hey, check out this cool coin," I have no problem, and if someone asks about availability of a coin through PM, cool... but I guess it comes down to if you want to deal with any crap that might come your way for doing such a thing.

My opinion is if it's an extraordinariily awesome coin... show it off... I want to see it...

RYK

If there is a teaching point or historical note of interest regarding a particular coin, I am in favor of you posting it here. If it is a "look what I have for sale" coin, then, by all means, post it in the BST forum.

Robert

ccr

I`m just one voice of many and I personnaly don`t have a problem with ones that are already sold. There are some I`m sure that may differ and have just as much or more say then I.



<< <i>About a week later I PM'd him and told him that the coin was now available and a short time later he was complaining on this forum about dealers promoting the sale of their coins by posting images. >>



I`m sure you had the best of intentions in this case and I`m not aware of what this situation is about. On the other hand, it isn`t too far of a leap for the person crying foul. Not knowing all the facts, I`m assuming it was a misunderstanding. So it`s a fuzzy grey area there. Selling, well I don`t think it will still go down well as someone may cry foul again but, I can be wrong. In ant case, I don`t have a problem with ones that are already sold.

Strat

Post 'em Mike!

ddink

I think it's fine to post pictures, just as long as there is no sales pitch.

Bear

I think that all of the beautiful cool toned coins should be sent to the Bear.

I would say if you have something unique and lovely then post the picture.

If someone wants to know about the coin then they will contact you.

FrattLaw

Post'em -- we're all big boys and girls here. I don't need a someone else censoring who and what should be posted.

Michael

coingame2000

Please keep the comments coming -- I really appreciate 'em and I'm very interested in all points of view in regard to this matter.

Mike

stman

What, now you gonna post your JFK's and Franklin's too? Do what you want you're gonna do it anyway. Do the moderns as well, I'm sure Strat would enjoy them.

relayer

The BST Forum is for eBay sales only.

Coins for sale that are not listed on eBay are posted in the Registry Forum.

The US Coin Forum is now the Open Forum

Please update your programs

Strat

Strat always enjoys seeing nicely toned coins, modern and otherwise, but I know Bear likes 'em too!

FullHorn

Do it ! post one right here and now! do it, Come on dont be chicken since I am no dealer I can post pics of my $10 coins all day
and half of those wont get any replies, but if you post something nice

boz

<< <i>a short time later he was complaining on this forum about dealers promoting the sale of their coins by posting >>



Wah! Wah! Wah!
Funny how some complainers will do this unless it works for them.
I'm all for pictures, if it something I like of course I'm going to inquire as to its availablity. I appreciate the opportunity to see new coins for sale or not. We don't have the best coin shops in this area so it's through this medium that I can find coins that interest me. Not everyone on the BST board post pictures anyway. I say go ahead and post 'em.

ajia

What about having links on their sig. line, should that be removed for threads & replies here?
Of course not!

You should have called this person out, we tend to turn the other cheek too many times.
If you feel set up, then clear the air then & there. Members are smart enough, they AMAZE me at the effort they put into getting to the bottom of an issue......just don't get into religion or politics!!!

mgoodm3

As long as you don't advertise, I say post pretty pictures.

zenny

i say bring on the pics

AND you can try to sell em if you want as far as i'm concerned, it's no biggie

have never really gotten what all the fuss is about

cosmicdebris

I love images of great coins. Post away you won't offend me.

tsacch

Post away is right man..............I dont see anyone complaining about Anaconda or Russ, or anyone else who buys, sells and posts. Eff 'em if they dont like it.

No offense to russ or andrian......just those are two names on this board who have great coins and great pics.

TONEDDOLLARS

Post the pictures. Sold or not sold, on hold or not on hold, as long as your just posting a photo why should anyone really care. I know I love to see really neat coins toned or white, all your doing is posting a picture. I was once told everything is for sale at the right price. Now I do not intend to sell anything that I own, but if some one was offering say $69000.00 for a $2000.00 Oregon I think we all might stop and think about it even if we were not selling the coin we were just posting for all to see.

kranky

I'm OK with images being posted if there's an educational aspect to it if the coin is sold. No offense to you or any other dealer, but I would prefer if dealers don't post images only because they are cool coins if the coin is for sale. If the coin is sold, no problem. If it becomes OK to post pics of available coins, then it's no different than the BST forum, regardless of how nice the coins are.

I love nice coin photos as much as anyone, but if a coin that is for sale can be posted here only because it's cool, we could easily end up the BST forum for high-end dealers. There would be no way to draw the line or to judge whether the poster's motivation was altruistic or not.

At first everything would be fine. Then we'd see more and more photos being posted because more dealers (not necessarily dealers who are here today) would want to get their product in front of this type of audience. Then there would be a backlash from board members saying it's gotten out of hand. Then the moderators would have to step in and issue a ruling that coins for sale MUST go on the BST board - or worse, saying that no dealers can post photos due to abuse. I think we'd be better off skipping all that commotion and potential hard feelings and self-police ourselves.

I appreciate getting to see great coins I'll never be able to own, but I have a much better perception of the dealer when I know it's not being done to sell the coin. Coins for sale belong on the BST board.

Regarding the specific situation you mentioned, I understand why you might feel you were set up. I guess the only way to protect yourself against that is to wait until the coin has been placed.

On a side note, I see nothing wrong with having links in signatures.

darktone

Hey Otis!

Neptune

I don't think it matters if coin is sold or not . . . pics are fine by me. I would also enjoy seeing more kewl coin pics in the BST forum.

mrdq

POST THEM. Some of us will never ge to see those coins any other way.

bushmaster8

<< <i>... he was complaining on this forum about dealers promoting the sale of their coins by posting images.
Mike >>



"He" sounds like he might need to get a life! Nice pix of nice coins are very much a big part of what makes the forums fun for many. Post!

mrearlygold

Put up a poll.

I'm against it personally and I'm a dealer. This could become a giant yahoo group if it went unchecked.

Rgrds
TP

IrishMike

Mike, I've had the pleasure of viewing some of the pictures of your coins and they are fantastic. Posting them here would be a better use of bandwith then most of what gets posted here, but if I were a dealer I wouldn't do it. There are some folks who post here that can't wait to whine about something so why go through that aggravation. Even though I don't think this forum would dissolve into another online for sale forum it certainly could become a setting for a lot of bickering. I think most interested parties would find your photos if you provided a link. If the coins are posted simply to sell them then I would say you would be better off posting in the B/S/T forum.

lava

This isn't rocket science. As others have said, a coin pictured with the obvious or subtle intent to sell should be posted on the bst forum. If there is truly something educational, then it may warrant posting on the us coin forum. A dealer knows what his or her intent is, so I don't see why this would even be a close call, or why a dealer would ever have to consult other forum members as to where to post.

Bear

The concensus seems to be forming up to this. a lot of people enjoy seeing pictures of

beautiful coins. However, such an action could very quickly lend itself to abuse which would

then be very hard to control. The backlash would be detrimental to dealers and collectors alike

as the character of this Forum would be changed. Coins that have already been sold would be

permissable or coins shown for the sole purpose of education or grading clarification would probably be

OK.

dorkkarl

if the coin's for sale, say so. it don't bother me at all is someone promotes a coin they have for sale, it's just when they call it 1 thing, & in fact it's something else. be a straight shooter.

K S

mgoodm3

Maybe if dealers want to show pictures of coins they should use the header: "Shameless dealer post" at the beginning the title.

I would say that if dealers do choose to post images of coins that are for sale, there should be added value such as a learning point. make it educational.

goose3

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<< <i>However, it drives me nuts everytime one major dealer poster on here (yep, thats a direct shot) keeps doing it and acting like its for education. >>



Laura:

Correct me if I am wrong but the major dealer you are talking about only uses coins that have already been sold in his posts.

You on the other hand consistently break the BST board rules of posting and TTT your own thread by telling us your NEWPS are being posted soon. Then you post a few hours later that they are still coming. This does not include the 2 threads at one time you put up the other day, another No No. The rules are one TTT per day on the BST board and only one thread within the first page.

Just wanted to say this as it seems no one else wants to point it out. >>




AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!





<< <i>The BST board can be very effective. Some dealers need to learn that. >>



Maybe certain dealers that aren't hyping silver dollars in not one but TWO threads (that don't even contain any coins for sale) need to learn some etiquette.



Continually throwing your cheap shots at Coinguy certainly is becoming of a well-known national dealer. Your posts I would imagine sure are effective. Effectively keeping people from Legend.

bushmaster8

Very succinct Bear.