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The seller thinks it might be counterfeit

If it ain't, it's the only known 1858 quarter with a half dollar obverse.
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I've never seen a counterfeit seated quarter with the half dollar obverse. Maybe I'll bid.
Then again, maybe the seller used the wrong picture.

Ray

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  • MSD61MSD61 Posts: 3,382
  • CrackoutCrackout Posts: 1,368 ✭✭✭✭✭
    United Stated of America?
  • merz2merz2 Posts: 2,474
    Is there any doubt ?
    Don
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  • hookooekoohookooekoo Posts: 381 ✭✭✭
    I don't get it...

    How can you tell the difference between the obverse of a seated quarter and a seated half dollar when you have no point of reference to indicate the size?

    Or it that the joke.
  • Looks suspicious. The letters are not very crisp.
  • UNITED "STATED" OF AMERICA?????? What is up with the stated rather than states????????????
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  • TonedCoinTraderTonedCoinTrader Posts: 2,765 ✭✭✭


    <<<UNITED "STATED" OF AMERICA?????? What is up with the stated rather than states????????????>>>

    Looks like they tryed to add a "D" Mint mark on it in the Wrong place! when there was no "D" Mint mark on seated coinage anyway image







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  • Steve27Steve27 Posts: 13,274 ✭✭✭
    It's not a counterfeit, because it's not a coin. There is no such place as the "United Stated of America." That "D" in place of the "S" is intentional and not intended to be a mint mark.
    "It's far easier to fight for principles, than to live up to them." Adlai Stevenson
  • dorkkarldorkkarl Posts: 12,691 ✭✭✭
    it'll go for (relatively) big bucks

    K S
  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,240 ✭✭✭✭✭
    His 1858-S half dollar in another auction has the same obverse photo.
    Andy Lustig

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  • gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Me say,cast.
  • Conder101Conder101 Posts: 10,536


    << <i>How can you tell the difference between the obverse of a seated quarter and a seated half dollar when you have no point of reference to indicate the size? >>


    The Seated Liberty design on each denomination is slightly different. If you know those differences it is easy to recognize the denomination from the obverse even without a size reference.

  • gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MrEureka
    Good eye,sure is the same obverse.
    Al
  • lathmachlathmach Posts: 4,720


    << <i>I don't get it...

    How can you tell the difference between the obverse of a seated quarter and a seated half dollar when you have no point of reference to indicate the size?

    Or it that the joke. >>



    Look at the stars.
    The stars point to the outside on the Half dollar, they point towards each other on the quarter. And, as condor101 pointed out, the figure of Liberty is also slightly different, but a layman might not be able to differentiate between them.

    Ray
  • gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭
    As long as I have been on this fourm,I always seem to learn something new.Thanks lathmach..I will have to watch my stars from now on.

    image
  • Conder101Conder101 Posts: 10,536
    Other places to look at are the drapery by liberty's elbow (On the half dime and dime it joins the leg below the knee a bulges out strongly to the right. On the 20 cent, quarter and dollar it joins the leg below the knee but the edge of the drapery is fairly straight. On the half dollar it joins the leg to the LEFT of the knee.)

    The shape of the rock is different on each but hard to describe except on the half were it curves back in strongly to the right before it meets the ground.

    The shield on the dollar has three bars in each red stripe, the other denomiations have two (except for one variety of 1873 half dollar which has four).

    On the 20 cent LIBERTY is in raised letters on the shield banner.

    On the dime the shield is vertical, it is almost vertical on the half dime. On the others it leans well to the left.

    I find the haf dime and the dime the hardest to tell apart without a size reference.

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