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Last year I bought a handful of Morgan Dollars - 1884 O - ANACS MS 63 for about $18.00 a piece.
Now I see toned 1884 O's going as high as $100.00. Are you telling me that just because a coin
has "natural aging" it goes up $80.00 in value? This whole "toned coin" business is running wild
and has spawned such crooks as "Tone coin" & associates. So it's aged - so what. MS 63 is MS 63.

Alex





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Alex in Alaska
Collecting Morgans in Any Grade

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  • OuthaulOuthaul Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Welllllll...it seems that there are more people hung up on eye appeal than a technical grade. So much so, that they'll pay many, many, many multiples of a coins value simply because of the pretty colors. Don't get me wrong, I like toned coins (NT that is), and I even paid a premium for one once. But, some of the prices are totally stupid.

    Just my eversohumble opinion.

    Cheers,

    Bob
  • Dennis88Dennis88 Posts: 5,797 ✭✭✭
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    Blast white 4ever!!!!

    Dennis
  • IwogIwog Posts: 1,089 ✭✭✭
    Coins do not age, they simply oxidize. Can you imagine a 200% premium being paid for a classic car that showed attractive rust?

    Buy coins with blazing luster, and some day when the market is saturated with AT junk everyone will jump back on the white bandwagon and you'll make millions.

    Until then, just watch and shake your head.
    "...reality has a well-known liberal bias." -- Stephen Colbert
  • bozboz Posts: 1,405
    The market doesn't lie. Take it if you can get it!
    The great use of life is to spend it on something that will outlast it--James Truslow Adams
  • nwcsnwcs Posts: 13,386 ✭✭✭
    >Are you telling me that just because a coin has "natural aging" it goes up $80.00 in value?

    It can.
  • VarlisVarlis Posts: 505 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Coins do not age >>



    Are coins magic?

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  • nwcsnwcs Posts: 13,386 ✭✭✭
    No, but there are magic coins.
  • ms70ms70 Posts: 13,954 ✭✭✭✭✭

    At a recent coin show I saw a spectacular killer Frankie that was beautifully toned beyond words in a PCGS 65FBL holder. The price tag
    was $700. Trends had it listed at $250. I really wanted it but wasn't willing to pay that much of a premium for the color.

    Great transactions with oih82w8, JasonGaming, Moose1913.

  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,376 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>(most deleted) So it's aged - so what. MS 63 is MS 63.

    Alex

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    Alex, it isn't necessarily that it has aged, rather, how it has aged.....would you rather have Dr Ruth or Morgan Fairchild? Both have aged, but one is sure better than the other image

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

  • OuthaulOuthaul Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ahh...but Dr. Woof is natural toning and Morgan Fairchild is artificial...NOW what do you have to say image
  • IwogIwog Posts: 1,089 ✭✭✭
    Are coins magic?

    More accurately, coins do not change as they get older unless exposed to an environmental hazard like hydrogen sulfide.
    "...reality has a well-known liberal bias." -- Stephen Colbert
  • OutHaul...Now that was a good one!!!!
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    I'd rather have Dr. Ruth. She's the perfect height.

    Russ, NCNE
  • OuthaulOuthaul Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hey Russ...all she needs is a flat head?



    << <i>OutHaul...Now that was a good one!!!! >>



    dlimb2...I strive for perfection image
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    Bob,

    I think your mind is in the gutter. image

    Russ, NCNE
  • foodudefoodude Posts: 3,568 ✭✭✭
    Are you telling me that just because a coin has "natural aging" it goes up $80.00 in value?

    It can, but not just because it is toned, but because the toning is very attractive. Most toning do not reach this level. In some cases, the attractiveness of the toning is highly desirable, and the cost can be exccesive in the eyes of some. Most toned coins, however, including dare I saw most advertised as "rainbow toned" and other superlatives are not even in the same ball park as the truly spectacular toned coins that bring the relatively big $$$.

    I buy and have some of the latter coins. Occassionally at shows I am offered "attractive toned" coins, but more often than not they are just the run of the mill toned coins that bring no premium, or in some cases actaully are a negative, and bring a bit less because of the toning. Some are attractive, and worth a small premium. So that people understand what a spectacular toned coins actaully looks like, I have samples on hand to demonstrate what I'm talking about when I say I want to buy spectacular toned coins. For those that have never actually seen a truly spectacular toned coined, the reaction is always WOW, often followed by "that is the prettiest ... coin I've ever seen". Many then say can I buy it, and for some, the price seems to be a secondary consideration, they just want to own the coin.
    Greg Allen Coins, LLC Show Schedule: https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/573044/our-show-schedule-updated-10-2-16 Authorized dealer for NGC, PCGS, CAC, and QA. Member of PNG, RTT (Founding Platinum Member), FUN, MSNS, and NCBA (formerly ICTA); Life Member of ANA and CSNS. NCBA Board member. "GA3" on CCE.
  • PlacidPlacid Posts: 11,299 ✭✭✭
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    About $60,000 worth of toning image
  • Sure is perddy though.image
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  • RegistryCoinRegistryCoin Posts: 5,117 ✭✭✭✭
    Couldn't have said it any better Bob:

    << <i>Welllllll...it seems that there are more people hung up on eye appeal than a technical grade. So much so, that they'll pay many, many, many multiples of a coins value simply because of the pretty colors. Don't get me wrong, I like toned coins (NT that is), and I even paid a premium for one once. But, some of the prices are totally stupid. >>

  • bee a u ti ful coin . . . but no way would I pay that much for it - even if I did have the money.
  • EvilMCTEvilMCT Posts: 799 ✭✭✭
    Beauty is in the eye(wallet) of the beholder. I have some toned coins, but have not paid a premium for any of them. I appreciate the beauty of some, hate the look of others. As an example, I do not find the Oregon example here to be all that attractive. It's interesting, but I wouldn't even buy it for normal prices because I don't like the way it looks. For me, it's simple. If it's a coin I want, I'll buy it if I believe it's at the right price (that I can afford). Otherwise, let those passionate about toning have at it. I'm just afraid that there is going to be a huge drop off in the market for these years down the road. If I'm wrong, oh well. It won't be the first time that I've missed the boat on some new fad. Bottom line, I'm in it as a hobby, not an investment.

    Ken
    my knuckles, they bleed, on your front door

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