Ebay offer...what to do??!?!?!?!

bushwood

So what would you do:

Auction ends for $75 and there was a bidder who missed out on the auction.

They are offering $400 to sell it to them......

What should I do!?!

Stone193

MrBush
Just curious, what is the item? (number?)
Mike

bushwood

it was a set of photos from the early 1900's......non-sport pics

Stone193

MrBush
This is a real tough one - the 'actual' ebay bidder won and gets the item for 75$. AND, you get to sleep at night. But, that's easy for me to say - I'm not in your shoes.
Mike

MrRookie

tell the 75 bidder the pics got pepsi spilled on them and sell to the 400

or go ahead and get the 400 guy to send you the money and then refund the 75 guy 100 instead of 75 and he'll be happy too

or sell to the 75 guy and give him the email address of the 400 guy

or just sell to the 75 guy and say a few times as you think of all the things you could have done with an extra 325

BigKidAtHeart

<< <i>...non-sport pics >>

hehe!
yeah,
I know about them "non" sports pics!
(just do not let your wife see you looking at them!)

Stone193

<< <i>tell the 75 bidder the pics got pepsi spilled on them and sell to the 400 >>


Andrew
Good one - OK - it's a slow nite - this could go to 75?
Jeff
Them pics:

MrRookie

is the link safe?

slvnumber2

Business wise why would someone pay $400 for some pics that went for $75?

Ethics wise would you want someone to do the same to you if you had won at $75?

murcerfan

Offer the legit buyer 50 bucks if he lets you sell to the other fool for $400

HammeringHank

I can't believe I just read all of this crap...does anyone understand the word..."integrity"...does the word "honor" mean anything...

Some of you are the first to complain about something that PSA does or doesn't do...some of you hate the "trimmers" as much as I do...and then this...

I guess money can buy anything...

Even you!

joestalin

I like the pepsi idea..can we get a link of the auction?

Kevin

habs71

<< <i>I can't believe I just read all of this crap...does anyone understand the word..."integrity"...does the word "honor" mean anything...

Some of you are the first to complain about something that PSA does or doesn't do...some of you hate the "trimmers" as much as I do...and then this...

I guess money can buy anything...

Even you! >>



HammeringHank> I agree with you 100%!! Unfortunately, if you read some past threads, "intergrity" & "honor" are words not found in the vocabulary of a few board members.


Skip

iamthegreatcornholio

Twice I've been in a similar situation. Both times I was the buyer and got a good deal on a card. The sellers emailed me and offered to give me money ($50 & $125) for me to back out of it. Both times I did and it felt good to make money for doing almost nothing. If he made more money, more power to him. That’s how I’d approach the buyer. Offer him some money to back out. I think it’s pretty low to lie and say something lousy like you spilled Pepsi on it. That shows no class or honor.

Brian

murcerfan

..ergo, my suggestion above.
Henri say, no likey.... it's immoral to table a proposition like that ?

who knows, maybe the actual winner has buyers remorse.
where's the harm in exploring where the buyer is at ?

Buckwheat

You have to sell him the card for $75. But I see nothing wrong with offering to buy it back for more. You may even tell him about the other offer, and agree to split the money with him.

HammeringHank

My lot in life is not to force my values on to others...

Here is the simple facts...my "word" is my bond...it has no higher calling...it can not be bought...there are is no "grey" area in my "word"...it is what makes me a Man!

When you place a transaction onto eBay...your "word"...your "integrity"...makes the system work...without it there is chaos...you have made a contract...the contract is bidding on both the seller and the buyer...it has no "loop-holes"...ask the buyer if you like...buy him off if you like...I suppose if he accepts and you've told him that someone else wants to pay $400 for the item that he/she bought for $75...then it's cool...

But of course you are not going to tell him that are you?...you're going to have to lie...so now you have in essence "cheated"...or am I missing something?...

murcerfan

Henry.
you are missing the fact that someone wants these photos bad enough to offer 5 times what they just sold for. Perhaps it's not all about the $$ here. You are jumping to some pretty avericous conclusions IMHO.
edited to add: obviously the buyer has an absolute right to buy them for the winning bid, and maybe the winner wants them just as badly.

Stone193

<< <i>you have made a contract...the contract is bidding on both the seller and the buyer >>


I'm with Hank on this one - let's say the buyer decides to back out because he found a cheaper source for the item - now you as the seller would be screaming foul!! You would want him to honor the contract of a bid placed is legally binding - so the seller has to take the same moral high road. Now, if you fully disclose your intentions to the buyer about another individual and the buyer accepts your offer, I don't see a problem with that.
Mike

HammeringHank

<< <i>you are missing the fact that someone wants these photos bad enough to offer 5 times what they just sold for >>



It wouldn't matter if someone wanted them for .25 cents more...it wouldn't matter if they wanted it for less...the deal is done...the seller is obligated to sell the items to the buyer...in essence they no longer belong to the seller...who can not now entertain any offers...regardless of what they may be...

A contract has been reached...the seller has agreed to sell their items to the winner of at the close of the transaction...done deal...what else is there to say...nothing...anything else is called...rationalization...something that we do...to make us feel that it is right when it's not...

WinPitcher

I guess you could contact the seller and say u have been offered more and split it with him. however once you do that the buyer can say no i want them for 75 and if it was the 2nd highest bidder (im not sure if it was in this case) contact them themselves, furthermore the 400.00 guy just may be full of s*%t.............if we allow this then what is to stop a buyer from then saying: i bid to much i no longer want the item sell it to the next highest bidder or to anyone that may have contacted you ooutside of the auction?? MY ADVICE and WHAT I WOULD DO? I would honor the 75.00 winner and chalk it up to I win some I lose some and some I never had.

Stone193

<< <i>in essence they no longer belong to the seller...who can not now entertain any offers...regardless of what they may be... >>


Hank makes an interesting point here and I would like some opinions - here's the deal - when you put an item up for auction and the first bid is cast - the item NO LONGER belongs to you - technically it is now in the hands of the ebay system for which you have made contractual agreements - to pull the item for any reason other than a defect or loss of the items e.g. would be in violation of the contract.
Mike

WinPitcher - I think you are also on to something - when we make deals, in many cases, it complicates things and leaves us wide open to criticism.

HammeringHank

Look ethics and morality are not about convienence...we all know what is right and what is wrong...even the guy that started this thread knew...we all know when we are doing something wrong...it doesn't take me or anyone else to tell us...the fellow that started this thread was looking for someone to give him a way out...that's why he asked the question...he knew it was wrong...he need our help....and we helped him...

We just didn't help him the right way...we gave him a rationalization...and he probably was happy to follow that path...

Stone193

<< <i> the 'actual' ebay bidder won and gets the item for 75$. AND, you get to sleep at night >>


Hank
I was the first to seriously respond and I think the message was plain - there was some humerous input afterwards but sincerely, he doesn't need us to validate what he knows is the correct thing to do in this case. Sell the item for 75$ and move on.
Mike

TexasHeatWave

I agree with Stone. The deal is done. If you back out of the deal with the $75.00 winner, DO NOT EVER complain about someone screwing you out of a deal, and DO NOT EVER complain when people avoid you or your other auctions, as you have set the course of your own fate.

Send it to the $75.00 winner - no debate.

Bryan

Buckwheat

Henri,

I agreee that a deal is a deal. But since you yourself say that the new owner has the right to sell the cards to whoever he pleases, wouldn't that include the original seller??? Why would the seller be ethically obligated to tell about another buyer. If I was the Ebay buyer, and was offered more money by the seller, I would figure that he got a higher offer, but it wouldn't matter whether he told me or not. I just have to decide if the new price he is offering me is worhtwhile. Maybe I figure I can ge the card again for $75, so if he offers me $100, I 'll take it, and I don't really care if he has a buyer who want to pay him $1000 for it.

HammeringHank

<< <i>But since you yourself say that the new owner has the right to sell the cards to whoever he pleases, >>



Good point...is there a deception being played...an advantage taken...if yes then...you have to question the deal...if I knowingly take advantage of someone because I have some knowledge they don't...does that make me a shrewed business person...in our society yes...

I'm not sure...

theBobs

I agree with Murcer/Buckwheat. Offer the $75 buyer some amount of money to not make the transaction. Heck, offer him $150 to not make the deal. Then you make $250 less ebay fees.