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Crossover Questions

Hey guys-
I'm getting ready to send off my first crossover submission. I have sent in three regular submissions, and I feel like for someone who is relatively new to the graded card thing my eye was pretty good (Got about 75% of the grades I thought I would get. Usually forgot to account for centering, but for the most part I undergraded, getting back better grades on the whole than I thought I would.) As far as the crossover thing goes, I just wanted some opinions. I am sending off 7 cards - 4 BGS (1981 OPC Ryan 9.5, 1979 OPC Ryan 9.5, 1988 Score Ryan 9.5, 1990 Bowman Tiffany insert Ryan 9.5), 2 BCCG (1985 Topps Ryan 10, 1993 SP RYan 10), and 1 Gem Elite (1977 Topps Ryan 10). For the BCCGs and the Gem, I am planning on just asking for any grade they will give me- they all look like solid 8's to me. My big problem is with BGS cards. Does PSA grade these with a chip on their shoulder? I really feel like every card is a solid 10, except for maybe the 88 Score. I just don't want to send PSA the cash and get nothing to show for it. Then again, especially for the OPCs, I think the cards are worth more in a BGS 9.5 holder than they are in PSA 9. Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

ADD- There are no PSA 10's of either card, and not even any 10s for the entire 81 OPC set. Even if these cards did grade out that high, they would go straight into my registry. It would just be nice to have some older 1/1's, which is pretty much why I am thinking about just going with a 10.

Comments

  • mikeschmidtmikeschmidt Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭
    Sorry to disappoint you - but I would be willing to make a substantial bet that your 1979 and 1981 OPC Ryan cards come back from PSA as "Evidence of Trimming" because they are sheet cut.

    In fact - without even knowing a thing about your cards - I would say that I am 95% confident that their subgrades are 9.5/9.5/9.5 and 9.0 for surface. BGS sheet-cut cards almost ALWAYS have lower subgrades for surface, because that is the one factor that cannot be controlled in sheet cutting. With sheet cutting, you can essentially ensure yourself near-perfect centering, super sharp corners, and very sharp (non-natural) edges.

    I hope you did not sink too much money into them. Sheet cut OPC cards are interesting to have as a player collector (I have some myself), but please do not deceive yourself into thinking that a) that is a card that was ever in a pack and b) that PSA will grade them.
    I am actively buying MIKE SCHMIDT gem mint baseball cards. Also looking for any 19th century cabinets of Philadephia Nationals. Please PM with additional details.
  • mudflap, OPC BGS cards are notorious for being sheet cut.
  • mudflap02mudflap02 Posts: 2,060 ✭✭
    Yep, you definitely got that right on the subgrades. I don't have near the money in them that 10's would bring, but they're definitely in the 9 price range. Do you know what it is about the surface that is a tipoff for sheet cutting? Like I said, I'm not a pro at grading my own cards. The edges (where the cuts were made) SEEM to have the same color as the rest of the borders, but that could be my wallet talking.
  • straight, clean-cut edges. factory cut OPC's usually have a "rough cut." sheet cut cards look like they were cut with a razorblade
  • mikeschmidtmikeschmidt Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭
    mudflap:

    Educate yourself as a collector. Go onto Ebay - spend some money (not expensive) on some vintage OPC baseball packs. Open them up and compare them to your Ryan.
    I am actively buying MIKE SCHMIDT gem mint baseball cards. Also looking for any 19th century cabinets of Philadephia Nationals. Please PM with additional details.
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