France 1838 King Louis VII Medal? Large Photos

LovelyDarkAngel · March 16, 2004 4:30AM

This is all the info I have on the medal. AE 51mm Suite medal by Caque. King Louis VII (1120-1137). Proof(AU)

Can anyone please assist me that reads french I believe? I’d like to know what the front & back of this medal says. Or any other info that you guys may have on such a medal. I do not have a Krause book that covers this era. I tried to keep the images large so it would be easier to read. Thank You very much. In addition is this copper or brass?

The envelope it came with some info, but not enough for me to understand.

elverno · March 16, 2004 4:37AM

Part of a series of medals produced 1836-1839 or so with the various Kings of France as its subject. Caque was a prominent engraver of the period that worked on the series.

LovelyDarkAngel · March 16, 2004 4:42AM

Thank you elverno every piece of info helps. Is there someone who can tell me what it says in brief.
And how do I find more like it. Can I just put Caque in the search at ebay and so on to see more.

theboz11 · March 16, 2004 4:48AM

Try This

Translator

coinrookie · March 16, 2004 5:28AM

The obverse reads The Young King Of France

LovelyDarkAngel · March 16, 2004 5:34AM

theboz11 and coinrookie thank you!
"The Young King Of France"

CIVITAS · March 16, 2004 5:35AM

I haven't studied french since high school, but I'll do my best:

Obv.: Louis VII, the Young King of France
Rev: Louis VII the Young
41st King
Son of Louis the Large(?)
Born 1120
King 1137
Sacking(?) of Vitry 1142
Peace with the Count of Champagne 1144
??????? 1145
Crusade 1147
Returned to France 1149
Death of ???? 1152
Reception(?) of the king of England in Paris 1153
Placer of the first stone of the church of Notre Dame 1163
War with England 1173-1175 Peace in 1176
Died 1180

laurentyvan · March 16, 2004 5:40AM

Here, let me give this a shot:

Reverse:

Louis VII, the younger
41st king
born 1120
crowned king 1137
taking and sacking of Vitry 1142
peace with the comte of Champagne 1144
"cour pleniere" (not sure what that means) at Bourges 1145
"Croisade" ?- Crusades 1147
Returned to France 1149
Death of Suger 1152
Reception for king of England 1158
Placed first stone for construction of Notre Dame 1163
War with England 1173-1175, peace 1176
Died 1180

Edited to add:Civitas-you beat me by 5 minutes and did good!

CIVITAS · March 16, 2004 5:43AM

OOH! Translation snipe!

Refrema · March 16, 2004 5:46AM

I had it just about translated, but civitas beat me to it. Where I had problems are the same places where he has question marks also. I just don't use my French often enough these days.

That is a great medal!!!

Bob

newsman · March 16, 2004 7:46AM

<< <i>"cour pleniere" (not sure what that means) at Bourges 1145 >>

I believe it means he held court at Bourges that year

<< <i>"Croisade" ?- Crusades 1147 >>

Louis VII led the Second Crusade that year >>

LovelyDarkAngel · March 16, 2004 8:25AM

I would like to thank everyone who helped me accumulate info on ths nice medal. Thank you guys once again. I hope to see or find more like it.

SYRACUSIAN · March 16, 2004 5:41PM

Fils de Louis le Gros.

<< <i>Son of Louis the Large(?) >>

It's actually Son of the Fat Louis! Some historical nicknames are cruel.

LovelyDarkAngel · March 16, 2004 9:17PM

Those of you who collect medals can you please give me some idea what is a good price range for by such medals. I'd like to try and by more by this same guy. I don't know if I paid to much. Because I just saw him and I liked him I paid $32.50 without shipping added. I don't have a Krause book to compare what is reasonable price. Thanks again everyone for your help. And special thanks to PVC Free For bring me into the world of world coins. I like my new family a lot. Because everyone tries to answer my questions.

CIVITAS · March 17, 2004 3:21AM

Under $50.00 seems quite reasonable for that medal. 51mm, nice and weighty, decent art with nice relief. Something tells me it might be a part of a set/series though, so you may find yourself with an irresistible urge to fill holes as time moves on.

LovelyDarkAngel · March 17, 2004 4:02AM

I already do feel the need to coplete the set. Lets hope I can find them and afford them.
Thanks for the price range.

elverno · March 17, 2004 4:21AM

I would agree that you got a decent price. Unfortunately there really isn't the equivilant of a "Krause" for medals. I constantly watch eBay, Yahoo and few other sites for the types of medals I collect. I also bid on medals in a lot of mail order and online auctions from major auction houses. The result is that I have a pretty good idea of what a French Revolutionary and Napoleonic era medal should sell for. But I couldn't do much more than guess outside 1789-1815.Good luck on your collecting!

LovelyDarkAngel · March 17, 2004 4:28AM

Thank you for giving me some ideas on where to start as to how to find more like it.

France 1838 King Louis VII Medal? Large Photos

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