MODERN VS. VINTAGE 1955 !!
kuhlmann
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OK lets see!!! 1955 topps set books for 8000$ i believe.
2004 topps heritage set books for what i am seeing on ebay around 400-600$.
I have opened about 100+ packs of the heritage and i will say i have made a nice profit off it. and i still have cards to sell or trade. or just giveaway.
I have now listed 160 1955 topps cards. they end on wednesday and thursday im saying mostly 5-6 grade. i am wondering what they all sell for ungraded.
My point being is i believe i will make more money with the modern stuff. just from the rip and the bust. the older stuff you have to mail off wait a week pay for the grade get disappointed that it didnt grade a 9 and only an 8 etc..
Explain this to me a mark prior sp 439 sells for 3-10$ and when andy pettitte first hit it sold for 20. these are all raw not graded.
Then i see star cards such as rizzuto hodges bauer banks aaron. sell for 1/10th the book price?? so which is better.
to me as of right now i like the modern stuff when its hot you can make $$ on the flip!
2004 topps heritage set books for what i am seeing on ebay around 400-600$.
I have opened about 100+ packs of the heritage and i will say i have made a nice profit off it. and i still have cards to sell or trade. or just giveaway.
I have now listed 160 1955 topps cards. they end on wednesday and thursday im saying mostly 5-6 grade. i am wondering what they all sell for ungraded.
My point being is i believe i will make more money with the modern stuff. just from the rip and the bust. the older stuff you have to mail off wait a week pay for the grade get disappointed that it didnt grade a 9 and only an 8 etc..
Explain this to me a mark prior sp 439 sells for 3-10$ and when andy pettitte first hit it sold for 20. these are all raw not graded.
Then i see star cards such as rizzuto hodges bauer banks aaron. sell for 1/10th the book price?? so which is better.
to me as of right now i like the modern stuff when its hot you can make $$ on the flip!
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<< <i>I have now listed 160 1955 topps cards. they end on wednesday and thursday im saying mostly 5-6 grade. >>
what is your Ebay id???
geeze ive been here a week and already im a senior member....hmm
Myself I enjoy the history of vintage cards and feel they are much more attractive than all the parallel, chrome, die cut, game jersey mess. Funny how the most popular card set right now is copied from the 1955 set. I have cards from the 80's, but I dont' find near as much enjoyment from just sitting down and enjoying the cards like I do my '67 set.
Mark Prior could suffer an arm injury tomorrow and all the speculators would be stuck with a big pile of useless cardboard. Hank Aaron, Stan Musial and Willie Mays are in the record books and while there cards will probably only gain value slowly, I don't think you have to worry about the value falling off the charts.
here are some item #'s 2792217357 2792216795 2792214673!!this is old cards!!
here is some item #'s of modern stuff that cost 3-5$ a pop. this is what i got. 2792100679 2791632502 2791665908
do the #'s on profit on that. lost my a$$ on the vintage. no matter what the cond. made a killing on the modern!
I am a partner in a business www.gamedaylegends.com so i am out to make a profit. but the cards are something i enjoyed doing since i was a kid. I learn more on this board everyday from people like stone193 joestalin quiltycards ronandchelle BKAH beachbumb kallmalonesay etc.. but in my opionion modern is better buy a box the day it realeases take your favorite players put them in a book and sell the other stars you dont like on ebay. you might come out ahead most of the time.
always renues intrest in the oldies. I was in awe of the 52 set, something you have to see live
and up close to appreciate.
I was curious if any vintage collector has noticed a rise in any 55 cards. It seems to me that heritage
sets only help. People looking for the originals. Anyone seen this?
Kevin
what i thought u were implying was 55 bauer which is a hi number that even in average condition is not gonna go for 1/10 of book a decent psa 6 example fetches 40 bucks....now depending on what you paid for it would be your profit, of course if you over paid for it then obviously one would take a loss.
i will agree with you that money can be made in modern I made a living doing that 10 years ago, however at this time in my life i prefer the laid back approach to collecting, not the ripping of packs and selling for profit. whatever floats your boat
I looked at only the bauer cuz it appeared that you have made sure to show only the transactions that would prove your point.
<< <i>Mark Prior could suffer an arm injury tomorrow and all the speculators would be stuck with a big pile of useless cardboard. >>
Jaybyrd - can you explain what you mean here - not all modern collectors do the Sams warehouse thing and buy in bulk - some just like to make up a set or two each year and as I've learned here when ready, I could sell some multiples and pulls I don't want to save and get some $ back to help pay for the set. What have I missed?
Mike
I'm editing this for Jaybyrd - Win's input - I may have missed who Jay was referring to about the speculators vs. the collectors - my bad
my bad i have a 55 out there now that was a 56.
What im saying no matter the cond. dont you think a 1955 original topps card should sell for more than a 2004 topps heriatge?
i mean a andy pettitte card went for 20$. i dont have time to pull up the earlier post on that. but i hope someone else will.
so if you can bust a pack get a andy pettitte in a new uniform and sell it for20$ when it first came out. then sell a al kaline 1955 topps lets say vg cond. card books for 150$ but you only get 15$ for it then what am i missing here?? then like joe stalin kept saying about these retail heritage boxes, you can pick them for 29.99 and get maybe 10-20 sp's per box. i was leery at first but i tried it and bamn made 15-25 on each on ebay just by busting the packs and selling the sp's. and i now have over 100 cards from the set i can sell in a lot also. so in no way is modern dead!
Modern cards if you want to make money on the flip!!! its supply and demand. faster you list it more you will get!! until iyt gets saturated.
as always i am not looking for an enemy on here. just discussing the cards!!
so there is demand, 2 yrs from now only a few of those cards will be hot......meanwhile the 55z will have the demand that they enjoy every day......
lol jeese kuhl i hope i didnt come across like im an enemy im just chatting with ya bro
lol now getting back to your 55z do u have card 157 listed by any chance??
#157 i dont have in front of me. i answered you on that on an earlier post. I will check on monday and see if the guy i am getting these from has one. he gave me a bunch of cards but there was still some left in there from 1955. next run he has is 1956 topps just as many. and he also has 1955 bowman. and i will say these are gradable. again maybe 5-6. but from that set from what i see and read it is hard to get a mid grade card. he must have 200 of them mostly commons. i did see a pee wee reese though.
i pre-ordered two cases of 2004 topps heritage for 982 bucks including shipping. i'm 4 cards short of a master set. i gave my son pujols, rjohnson and arod jersey cards and a handful of chrome cards. i kept the grandstand glory kaline. they weren't live for 2 weeks when i sold:
sp lot of 58 for 264.00
refractor lot of 12 for 75.00
chrome lot of 30+ for 200.00
jersey lot of 5 for 40.00
sp lot of 30+ for 75.00
doubleheader lot of 16 for 100.00
i haven't sold the autos yet.
by this time next month i will NOT be able to get the above prices for those cards i sold.
i am NOT trying to start a war but with modern it is usually what comes up will come down . notice : i did say USUALLY, as i recently had a debate with kevin about this and the high end psa 9 &10 pujols rookies still have'nt come down but i still suspect they will (actually i hope they do because i promised my son either a SPX or bowman auto when he graduates grammer school this june ).
the vintage market is more stable and seldom sees the dramatic sales price decreases the modern market does. with modern it's all about striking while the iron is hot.
kevin if you see this pm me regarding the heritage trivia, i still can't figure out the nomar question.
loth
i bought 1 case of 2003 heritage last year and came within 7 cards- 5sp's and 2 subset cards - from a complete master set. Do you or anybody else know why 2 cases leaves you still a few cards shy? that sounds ridiculous to me
loth
the good news is that i made a killing selling the dupes and chrome for the last three years. check my completed auctions under JIMMYWALNUTZ.
i suspect that topps collates the cards to make it impossible to get a whole set from a case. i sold a case of 04 to a buddy of mine and he still needed 11 or 12 for the master set. i've been trying to pick them up here and there for him. i guess you were lucky.
i still have about 9 triples left what numbers do you still need? i have a couple of autos that i'm looking to trade for grandstand glory cards as i have most of them from 01 to present. i'm also willing to pay top dollar for last years posada/berra dual relic #'d to 25.
It does seem that certain cards are shorter in print than others, actually I think there are regional
differences too, Ive been at a show where one guy had all the cards I needed and I had all the
cards he needed. They might also come out in waves as I remember the topps sets of the 80's
coming out. Late retail boxes might have the cards we need in them.
highend...would you be interested in a Pujols/Musial dual jersey card #ed to 55?
LMK
Kevin
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