NO! NO! NO!, You Will Not Suck Us In With Your Phoney Shill Bidding

RCDB

Sorry, can someone provide a link to Ebay 3902696277. He lists the piece of junk accurately, then supplies what has to be some phoney shill betting in an attempt to suck in some little old lady from Pasadena. Maybe each of us needs to set up a secondary bidding ID for EBAY so we can win all the scam auctions and try to make it too difficult for them to operate anymore on the Bay.

danny72170

Link

Russ

Might not be shills. All it takes is two reading impaired bidders.

Russ, NCNE

RCDB

Thanks, Danny. Russ, if that's true, I need to list the Brooklyn Bridge on Ebay to see what I can get for it.

WWBillman

This is not the first time for him. He sold one of these months ago. If i rememebr right he got about $300 for it.

ClausUrch

<< <i> I need to list the Brooklyn Bridge on Ebay to see what I can get for it. >>



The only thing guys like us would get by listing such an auction is Naru'd!

Rampage

I read 7 of his 10 negatives. All were for this coin he is selling. All were like: "fake/copy/misrepresented/won't return emails/no refunds", etc.

bearcave

Can I send it in and have it graded?

RCDB

I'll grade it for you- POOF! 69-------Just like your $ you spent on it.

jhuberdude

I reported it to ebay, but am not sure I did it in the right place. I had to choose what was wrong with the sale from a list of pre-made complaints. Isn't there a place to just e-mail them to alert them of the problem?
We should shut people like this down!
John

jhuberdude

Do these replicas have copy on them? If not isn't it a violation of the hobby protection act? I looked it up online...
    (a) An imitation numismatic item which is manufactured in the United States, or imported into the United States for introduction into or distribution in commerce, shall be plainly and permanently marked "COPY".
    (b) The word "COPY" shall be marked upon the item legibly, conspicuously, and nondeceptively, and in accordance with the further requirements of these regulations.
    (1) The word "COPY" shall appear in capital letters, in the English language.
    (2) The word "COPY" shall be marked on either the obverse or the reverse surface of the item. It shall not be marked on the edge of the item.
    (3) An imitation numismatic item of incusable material shall be incused with the word "COPY" in sans-serif letters having a vertical dimension of not less than two millimeters (2.0 mm) or not less than one-sixth of the diameter of the reproduction, and a minimum depth of three-tenths of one millimeter (0.3 mm) or to one-half (1/2) the thickness of the reproduction, whichever is the lesser. The minimum total horizontal dimension of the word "COPY" shall be six millimeters (6.0 mm) or not less than one-half of the diameter of the reproduction.
    (4) An imitation numismatic item composed of nonincusable material shall be imprinted with the word "COPY" in sans-serif letters having a vertical dimension of not less than two millimeters (2.0 mm) or not less than one-sixth of the diameter of the reproduction. The minimum total horizontal dimension of the word "COPY" shall be six millimeters (6.0 mm) or not less than one-half of the diameter of the reproduction.

K6AZ

Yes, they do, that is why the sellers of this junk don't show the reverse.

Another fine example of the never ending stream of bidiots on eBay.

Trooper

I'm sure the word copy appears on the reverse but he only shows the front like many sellers. Ask for a reverse pic.

This person has had a couple of threads about him. He does say "minted by the National Collector's Mint" and "Edition Limit: 2,250" so if you can't read well........

With those 2 statement I can see nothing wrong with the auction. I do feel sorry for the high bidder though when they realize they just have a item worth a little more than silver melt. He use to have is auctions public but now there private for these items.

Buyer beware....

Tom

K6AZ

Tom, they aren't even worth that. Note they say "100 mill". This means they are nothing but silver plated base metal pieces of junk.

jhuberdude

In the National Collectors mint site, you can see a reverse image. I see no copy there.

Likorama

Also, although they do list the fact it is from the national collectors mint and 100 mil silver, the fact that it is a private auction shows he is trying to get away with something.

Pushkin

<< <i> Do these replicas have copy on them? If not isn't it a violation of the hobby protection act? >>



That is because they don't say "One Dollar" on them so they probably are not copies according to the "legal" definition of a "COPY".


No "ONE DOLLAR" on these slugs!

Weiss

Takes two to tango.

Unless I'm mistaken, there is no such animal as an 1879CC proof Morgan. But even a DM coin in MS66 or 67 would be worth in the tens of thousands of dollars.

This guy is skating as close to the edge of deception as I think anyone could without lying. But it is better that these suckers should be fleeced for $300 than for their life savings by a real con artist. Maybe a $300 wakeup call will save them $30,000 or $300,000 when the Undersecretary of the First Bank of Nigeria writes them a personal invitation...

Trooper

K6az

I see the 100mil but that goes with the "Composition: 100 Mil .999 Pure Silver Clad Base".

So I'm confused, does that mean they aren't Silver? I thought that statement above still represented they they are made from a silver round.

Does 100 mil mean 100 milligrams and that equals 1 oz silver?

Tom

Weiss

Trooper, a mil is a 1/1000th of an inch. Actually, I believe that "mil" generically means 1/1000th of anything.

So this "coin" has a plating of silver that is 1/1000th of an inch thick over a clad base of junk metal.

Trooper

Weiss & K6AZ

Thanks!! I figured it was the other way around and I see what your saying now.....

Tom