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1934 Heavy Motto Washington Quarter
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Fellow Washington quarter collectors,
The following is a letter which I sent to PCGS yesterday in hopes that they will consider recognizing the 1934 Heavy Motto coin as a separate variety on the holder inserts, as they do the 1934 Light Motto coin. My reasons for this are stated in the letter. BJ Searls sent me back a note yesterday afternoon saying that my letter was being sent to David Hall and his grading staff for consideration. Anyone who feels as I do about this topic should also let PCGS know their feelings. Thanks. Tom Schiera
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Dear PCGS,
As an advanced collector of Washington quarters (1932-1964), I believe there is a matter regarding the 1934 motto varieties that should be and needs to be addressed and dually recognized.
The Philadelphia coins of 1934 possess a most unique distinction. The mottos on these coins carried three different varieties. There is the LIGHT MOTTO (motto of 1932) variety, which PCGS currently recognizes and identifies on their holder inserts. The other two varieties which exist are the MEDIUM MOTTO (motto of 1934 and 1935) and the HEAVY MOTTO (motto of 1936 and after). Neither of these varieties are currently recognized by PCGS, i.e. both are unattributed on the holder insert as to variety, without any distinction to either of these motto types.
It is my feeling that the HEAVY MOTTO variety should also be recognized individually/separately for what it is. Many collectors of this series seek out to collect all 3 motto varieties, and the HEAVY MOTTO variety is as rare, if not more rare, than the LIGHT MOTTO variety. Only one in about every 40 coins carries the HEAVY MOTTO. Although no exact mintage figures exist for the motto varieties, Breen estimates that the mintage of the HEAVY MOTTO variety could be less than 500,000, which would make it more rare than the LIGHT MOTTO type. With that being the case, mint state examples of the HEAVY MOTTO variety carry a substantial premium for collectors who seek out to collect all 3 motto varieties. With that being the case, I feel the HEAVY MOTTO variety should be distinctly recognized as "HEAVY MOTTO" on the holder inserts for these type coins. The HEAVY MOTTO coins warrant and deserve as much or more recognition as does the LIGHT MOTTO type coins.
With that said, I would like to request that consideration be given so that coins of the HEAVY MOTTO variety be recognized by PCGS on the holder inserts when encapsulated. I believe this is an important variety that warrants distinction as a separate and noted variety type among the 1934 Philadelphia coins of the Washington quarter series.
Thank you for your consideration.
Respectfully submitted,
Tom Schiera
PCGS Registry participant for Washington quarters, 1932-1964.
The following is a letter which I sent to PCGS yesterday in hopes that they will consider recognizing the 1934 Heavy Motto coin as a separate variety on the holder inserts, as they do the 1934 Light Motto coin. My reasons for this are stated in the letter. BJ Searls sent me back a note yesterday afternoon saying that my letter was being sent to David Hall and his grading staff for consideration. Anyone who feels as I do about this topic should also let PCGS know their feelings. Thanks. Tom Schiera
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Dear PCGS,
As an advanced collector of Washington quarters (1932-1964), I believe there is a matter regarding the 1934 motto varieties that should be and needs to be addressed and dually recognized.
The Philadelphia coins of 1934 possess a most unique distinction. The mottos on these coins carried three different varieties. There is the LIGHT MOTTO (motto of 1932) variety, which PCGS currently recognizes and identifies on their holder inserts. The other two varieties which exist are the MEDIUM MOTTO (motto of 1934 and 1935) and the HEAVY MOTTO (motto of 1936 and after). Neither of these varieties are currently recognized by PCGS, i.e. both are unattributed on the holder insert as to variety, without any distinction to either of these motto types.
It is my feeling that the HEAVY MOTTO variety should also be recognized individually/separately for what it is. Many collectors of this series seek out to collect all 3 motto varieties, and the HEAVY MOTTO variety is as rare, if not more rare, than the LIGHT MOTTO variety. Only one in about every 40 coins carries the HEAVY MOTTO. Although no exact mintage figures exist for the motto varieties, Breen estimates that the mintage of the HEAVY MOTTO variety could be less than 500,000, which would make it more rare than the LIGHT MOTTO type. With that being the case, mint state examples of the HEAVY MOTTO variety carry a substantial premium for collectors who seek out to collect all 3 motto varieties. With that being the case, I feel the HEAVY MOTTO variety should be distinctly recognized as "HEAVY MOTTO" on the holder inserts for these type coins. The HEAVY MOTTO coins warrant and deserve as much or more recognition as does the LIGHT MOTTO type coins.
With that said, I would like to request that consideration be given so that coins of the HEAVY MOTTO variety be recognized by PCGS on the holder inserts when encapsulated. I believe this is an important variety that warrants distinction as a separate and noted variety type among the 1934 Philadelphia coins of the Washington quarter series.
Thank you for your consideration.
Respectfully submitted,
Tom Schiera
PCGS Registry participant for Washington quarters, 1932-1964.
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I agree that the 1934 Heavy Motto should be recognized by PCGS, as it has been for decades by Washington enthusiasts, particularly since the Light Motto coins are designated. Why go just halfway?
I believe it's at least as important as some the the other Washington varieties, and currently is not receiving the respect it deserves.
I hope David Hall agrees to add it to set varieties set.
Jim
Tom, doesn't the 34-D also come in regular and heavy. Should that date be designated as well?
Greg
Wondercoin
Greg
Mitch: Thank you for your efforts to convince PCGS to recognize the Heavy Motto variety 1934-P. Them (PCGS) simply not wanting to do it does not warrant much of a reason for it not to be done, in my opinion.
Hopefully enough of us will voice our opinions in favor of the Heavy Motto coin being recognized. I certainly hope that PCGS will weigh it's merit for inclusion as part of the set more carefully/seriously. I beleive it should be as much a part of the variety coins as any of the other ones that already are recognized. Please, please voice your opinions to PCGS if you are in favor of this! The more of us who do so will further help convince PCGS to include it!
Tom Schiera
Perhaps if David heard enough voices,...
I think another variety that should be considered is the "B" type reverses!
Don
Michael
I do sell alot of Washingtons and there is not a show that I do, that I am not asked for the 1934 heavy motto and also asked why PCGS does not recognize this coin? this may sound stupit but I DO NOT KNOW WHY I tell them. This is a business strike this coin IMHO is as great as the light motto also a business strike and both motto LIGHT & HEAVY should be a part of both registry sets like the standing liberty quarter(type 1 & type 2) the buffalo nickle (type 1 & type 2) & the 60 and 60d small & large dates lincolns
Tom and Mitch thanks for sincere effort in keeping this 1934 heavy motto a real part of the Washington set
ZAPS COINS
Bob
WANTED a1942s double die obverse the doubling can be seen on the date AU or better