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Would coin collecting be as fun if you were filthy rich?

If you could easily buy any coin you wanted without even thinking about it, how long would it take for coin collecting to become boring?

Part of the fun for me is looking at the $50,000 coins on the dealers' sites and fantasizing that maybe one day I'll be able to afford a coin like that. If I could just buy what I wanted, there'd be nothing to look forward to, if that makes sense.

Do you find that your limitations as far as finances are concerned actually make the hobby more enjoyable?

Dan

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  • Wolf359Wolf359 Posts: 7,656 ✭✭✭
    Yes and No. There have been many new discoveries in the 1921-D Morgan series, so the thrill is in the hunt.

    On the other hand, being able to offer sufficent sums of money to collect top coins is a fantasy we all share I believe.

  • l'd go to more shows, but I don't think I'd have any more fun collecting. The hunt is a big part of the fun for me. Of course, it would be nice to be able to really "pull the trigger" from time to time on a truly awesome piece.

    Mike
    Coppernicus

    Lincoln Wheats (1909 - 1958) Basic Set - Always Interested in Upgrading!
  • MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭
    The fun is in the hunt, and if you are filthy rich, you could afford to get the best of the best. Imagine having the Elaisberg collection, even he had to search long and hard for the coins he needed to fill his set. He even gave back his 1933 Double Eagle back to the Secret Service when they requested it back from him... a $7.8M coin ! That's filthy rich !
    Mike Hayes
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  • MrLeeMrLee Posts: 1,847 ✭✭✭
    I'm sure a rich collector has more fun than a poor collector.



    Poor sucks
  • uofa1285uofa1285 Posts: 2,252 ✭✭
    I think it is, yes. But I have no other perspective than one as being rich. image

    Doug
    Visit my eBay Store to see my (mostly) overpriced Rainbow Toned PCGS/NGC coins! IshopCoinShows4You
  • I think the rich can appreciate a beautiful coin as much as
    a beautiful car or mansion.
    They may not get as excited about aquiring a rare coin,
    but they're also less likely to get frustrated because they
    had to pass on a prized coin.
  • smprfismprfi Posts: 874
    Heck ya.Think of all the coin varieties,errors,vam's etc.etc.etc.
    Errors alone could keep you busy for a life time.
    Example pick a series and try to make a set of rotational errors.10%,20%,30% so on so forth.
    Do the same for off center.
    There are so many ways to collect that you couldn't do it all regardless of the amount of money you had.
  • Sure, it would still be fun. I could just concentrate on areas where the availability of quality coins is tougher--like Southern gold, for example.image
    The strangest things seem suddenly routine.
  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,241 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'd have A LOT more fun collecting coins if I were filthy rich, but only if restricted myself to coins that were "good value". I wouldn't enjoy pissing money away, however cool the coins were.
    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

    Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
  • barberloverbarberlover Posts: 2,228 ✭✭
    Coin collecting is my means of escaping a world I don't like very much. If I was rich I would still collect coins but I hope my main focus would be to improve the lives of my family & the poor.

    I would probably look at coins that I never hoped to own like mint state bust dollars and mint state bust gold. It would be nice though to just think about being Richh so I'd never have to be told what to do again by any jerk with the title of boss.

    Les
    The President claims he didn't lie about taxes for those earning less then $250,000 a year with public mandated health insurance yet his own justice department has said they will use the right of the government to tax when the states appeals go to court.
  • islemanguislemangu Posts: 1,378 ✭✭✭
    heck yah...to keep it exciting go after one particular issue hoarding until you control majority and see the list values changing because of your own doingsimage...something like buying up all the nice MS slabbed 20 cent piecesimage
    How much would that take? Bill Gates could do like riding a bike on Sunday
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  • elwoodelwood Posts: 2,414
    The dream of owning something is much more enjoyable than the reality of ownership.
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  • It would still be fun but your interests might change based on a fatter wallet.
  • The dream of owning something is much more enjoyable than the reality of ownership.

    I can't agree with that one!!



    Would coin collecting be as fun if you were filthy rich?

    Of course it would be, just because you have the money to buy the best does not mean you still cannot enjoy the hunt of that elusive piece. if that special piece is across the country or going up for auction you could easily afford to jump on a plane and fly to see it in person without having to worry about being able to have enough money left over to actually buy it.
  • segojasegoja Posts: 6,132 ✭✭✭✭
    Great Thread!!!!

    Isn't the fun of collecting in the hunt???? That's what it is for me, finding a nice cameo early 50's coin in a proof set, or finding a nice high end Ike in a run of mint sets or blue pack Ikes. I'm sure you guys know what I mean for whatever series you hunt for!

    Maybe these filthy rich guys hunt by making phone calls and seeing who can out bid each other at prestigious auctions, but I'm not so sure that's all that much fun.

    I like looking at expensive coins too. Looked at Parinno's 1894-S dime, actually held it in my hands, all he wanted was $1,000,000 for it. Asked him if he had two, then I would have been a buyer, lucky for me he only had the one!
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  • BladeBlade Posts: 1,744
    I think it would be a blast. I like smprfi's thinking. There are a million collecting directions you could go.

    Collect a series and back into the patterns.
    Collect by date, then get all the currency that was also in circulation at that time.
    I could finally own a 1907 Ultr High Relief Saint!

    But here is the kicker with coin collecting for the rich. Coins aren't always available no matter how much money you have. Some rarities stay locked away for decades. How many wealthy Saint collectors ( and just about any gold collector, for that matter) would love to own the Judd 1776 $20 Indian Saint pattern? We may never see that coin trade hands in our lifetime. So I'm sure the wealthy still dream like the rest of us do.
    Tom

    NOTE: No trees were killed in the sending of this message. However, a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.

    Type collector since 1981
    Current focus 1855 date type set
  • cosmicdebriscosmicdebris Posts: 12,332 ✭✭✭
    Hell yeah!!!!!!!!! A lot more FUNimage
    Bill

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    09/07/2006
  • I'd travel and pick up coins along the way. Find out the history of the coins first hand. Go to museums around the world. There will always be a coin you have never seen or is out of your reach.
  • flaminioflaminio Posts: 5,664 ✭✭✭
    I think it would be just as fun. As others have said, the thrill is in the hunt and the assemblage of the collection. Whether that is accomplished with ten dollar coins or ten thousand dollar coins is irrelevant -- the fun level remains the same.
  • orevilleoreville Posts: 11,950 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This is a set that will probably not be completed in my lifetime. I will always enjoy the wonder of coins I do not yet or may never own while being appreciative of the coins I have been lucky enough to acquire over the past 43 years. Even many of the coins I now have are coins I could only dream about when I was a 12 year old coin collector in 1965, a 22 year old coin collector in 1975, a 32 year old coin collector in 1985, and a 42 year old collector in 1995. So fellow collectors, never let your sense of wonder and dreams die!!

    This is what I said about my type set. Yes, indeed, the thrill of the hunt and the sense of wonder of coins whether you own them or not, is the most important thing in collecting but the thrill of learning something new, acquiring knowledge and the thrill of ownership is not far behind.

    Oops, I realize that I have to revise that paragraph to 44 years.
    A Collectors Universe poster since 1997!
  • LincolnCentManLincolnCentMan Posts: 5,347 ✭✭✭✭
    It would be just as fun, but not as challenging. The fun would be in the search.

    David
  • XpipedreamRXpipedreamR Posts: 8,059 ✭✭
    I'd be willing to take my chances. PM me for address. Checks/MO accepted.
  • Affirmative - Coin collecting would be much more fun - as I would actually be 'able' to collect, whereas, I am currently unable to do so at this point in time due to cash being tied up elsewhere. I am certainly one for fullfilling fantasies. It would be great to be able to collect/purchase more of the coins that I really would like to own, and to give some away as great gifts also. image
  • rainbowroosierainbowroosie Posts: 4,874 ✭✭✭✭
    Definately MORE fun....I'd snipe every roosie in the world!!!
    "You keep your 1804 dollar and 1822 half eagle -- give me rainbow roosies in MS68."
    rainbowroosie April 1, 2003
  • nwcsnwcs Posts: 13,386 ✭✭✭
    It would be as fun because I could actually pursue what I want. And it would afford me the opportunity to be generous to other collectors.
  • Conder101Conder101 Posts: 10,536
    I get the feeling that a lot of you don't have the same definition of "filthy rich" that I do. To me filthy rich is someone who can't spend his money as fast as it accumulates. Who just calls up Jay Parrino and says "send me all of it, the checks in the mail". Who can go to EVERY major auction and simply buy the whole thing. Who can go to the ANA bourse floor and just buy the whole thing every stinking coin. There is very little that is not available to a collector with that type of wallet. Someone mentioned the 1907 double eagle pattern, call up the owner and say "$10 million" and see if it doesn't change hands. If it doesn't say $20 million". And when there is someone like that in the market he doesn't have to search. The coins will come to him. Eliasburg didn't have to do too much searching for his coins, he dealt through two or three dealers who knew what he wanted and they let him know when it was available or tracked down owners and made offers for him.

    I have considered this question before and I don't think I would enjoy collecting near as much if I never had to concern myself with being able to afford it. I'd probably give up collecting and just go heavily into the research side of numismatics.
  • Good Question.

    To have a ton of cash that would allow me to get whatever I desired would be nice. If I wanted to do a set of Indian Half Eagles in MS65 I could. If I got a bug in my ear to put together a complete date/mint/denomination set of all Philippine coins that were minted while the US controlled that nation I could. If I wanted to get each pattern Nickel ever made I could. Basically the money would allow me the luxury of exploring any collecting impulse that I had, no matter how expensive or odd. Something I can't do today. Living on a budget forces me into accepting that I can't collect some things, or collect them in conditions I would want. Having the cash would remove those limits. But that’s all it would do.

    The real value and fun I get out of my collecting is the hunt for items, and the enjoyment of cataloging them once I have them, and placing them in my holders. And then enjoying the sets as they grow. While money would make that process happen faster, it wouldn’t change it. In fact it might harm it a touch, as one can ‘OD’ on too many coins. An experience I had while starting my Euro set a week or so back, when I got a package with 14 full sets (112 coins) at once. As a collector who was used to adding one coin to his collection each month at best, this was just a huge torrent of new material to process. An odd, but valuable educational experience about myself and how I feel about collecting.

    So overall I think the money would only allow me to do what I do now, only more so (provided I can avoid the OD trap) and I’d continue to be the happy collector I am today, only without the occasional sadness of not being able to purchase an item I truly wanted.

    Myriads
  • Dog97Dog97 Posts: 7,874 ✭✭✭
    I live within my means, sometimes my means is large, sometimes small. Either way I enjoy it. If I were rich I could buy more & better coins so I would enjoy it more I guess.
    Change that we can believe in is that change which is 90% silver.
  • ARCOARCO Posts: 4,391 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes and no. Part of the fun is the excitement of buying a nice coin below the market price and knowing that when you go to sell it there will be money made.

    If I had more money I would travel to all the shows and large auctions increasing my numismatic fun ten fold. Money would provide more opportunities but might detract from some of the rewards of collecting....but not many!

    Tyler
  • StoogeStooge Posts: 4,665 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Having unlimited wealth would have its ups and downs, but being poor I see more ups. You could travel across this great land of ours and see different cities and meet new people every day regardless of how many coins you could buy. There are quite a few people on this board I would love to meet and go to an auction or 2 with. It would be a blast!

    As far as coin collecting, I would concentrate on my dimes and assemble a complete collection of high grade MS & PF dimes from 1796-date. All M/M and varieties.

    Now that would never get old and sure would be alot of fun.

    Great question!

    Later,
    Paul B. Gunsallus

    Later, Paul.
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    If I were filthy rich, I wouldn't collect coins. I'd collect hot young babes.

    Russ, NCNE
  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,660 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If I were filthy rich, I wouldn't collect coins. I'd collect hot young babes.

    If I were filthy rich, I'd collect coins, babes, cars, beach houses, and memories of adventure travel,

    among other things.

    Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry

  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,781 ✭✭✭✭
    I'm not sure it would really make a difference. My focus would certainly change however.
    Buyer and seller of vintage coin boards!
  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,660 ✭✭✭✭✭
    ah, back to the question though

    yes, I think it would be a lot more fun to collect if i were really wealthy, but in a different way.

    Now, for my early Types, I try to get as much coin as i can on my budget,

    but if money were no object, I'd dry to get as much coin as i can, period.

    Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry

  • jdimmickjdimmick Posts: 9,668 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It would be fun, I would collect on a much higher level. I could chase some of the top pieces in existence, extreme rarities.
    It would still be challenging, as just becuase you have the money, doesnt mean that some pieces will always be available. You may have to wait long periods of time before something comes to market. At least then the money part would not be a deterrrant.

    I would love to go to a show like FUN, Long Beach, Baltimore and spend 25 Million dollars in one pop, then be able to do it again in three months.

    jim
  • bozboz Posts: 1,405
    Collecting is collecting, no matter how much money I have to spend on a particular coin I need. I buy the best I can find. Sometimes that requires saving and searching for quite a while, but eventually it happens. Having the money to buy any coin I wanted would just make it that much better. A collector will enjoy each coin he/she has hunted down. Being filthy rich, I wouldn't buy a coin that I didn't want. No matter what you collect, I don't think anyone buys what they won't enjoy.
    The great use of life is to spend it on something that will outlast it--James Truslow Adams
  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,631 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A lot of the coins I'm looking for money isn't the major issue. It's finding them.

    Lots of money would allow me not only to expand my search but to also collect
    a wider array of coins.
    Tempus fugit.
  • The fun in being filthy rich for me wouldn't be so much in what coins I could buy..but if I were filthy rich I could afford
    1. not to work
    2. travel to all these places all over the country for big shows and look at a lot of stuff.

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