1967 Babe Ruth cards?

80sToyguy

Hey guys.
I had a gentlemen walk into my shop today with 2 supposed 1967 Babe Ruth highlight cards of some sort. They were both only in VG shape so it's not really a big deal, just wondering if these things are legit or counterfeit's made while the boom was on (he claims to have purchased them in 1991). The border's look like 1967 Topps but Beckett does not list them or even mention them--anyone have any insight to these.
Thanks,
Jay

packCollector

Are they "Retardo" cards, if so, they are venezualens

AkbarClone

It would be easier for us to search for your answer if you looked at the back of the cards to see what the card numbers were, and what (if any) date of copyright/manufacture/release was.

80sToyguy

Sorry guys, he came in, I looked at them, but he left with them because I had no idea what they are. What exactly are Venezuelan's?
Thanks for the input though, if he does come back in I'll write down some info about them.
Jay

helionaut

I just "discovered" the 1967 Venezuelan "Retirado" cards a couple weeks ago while looking for Musial, so that may be what you were seeing. Here's one. They were apparently cards of HOFers that Topps added to their 1967 Venezuelan edition. I don't have a checklist, but there are some experts in this issue on the boards.

BigKidAtHeart

1967 VENEZUELA TOPPS BASEBALL
Backs are horizontal rather than the vertical US issue and they are printed in black on two shades of green.
Cards 1-138 are minor leaguers and Hispanic players active in Latin Winter League ball; numbers 139-188 are former big league
stars with the word "RETIRADO" on the card front; numbers 189-338 are contemporary major league players and fronts are
parallel to the US issue.

67standup

Kind of up my alley, but by no means am I an expert. Rarely will you find better than VG since cards were almost always pasted into albums. There's a 1966 Mantle on Ebay right now.
They mirror photos of Topps, years are: 1959,1960,1962,1964,1966, and 1968, and stickers in 1972 (different than Topps) and 1977. The 1967 Retirado is different from the regular Venezuelan of the same year as they feature HOF players (e.g., Musial, Cobb, etc.) and minor league cards (kinda cool since photos are different than those of Topps of the same year.) Cards were also produced in 1970, but with no licensing from Topps, many of cards depicted MLB players who played Winter ball in Venezuela.

It’s difficult to tell the difference between Topps for 1959, 1960, 1964, and 1966. Easier for 1962 and 1968, easiest for 1967.

Cards demand a definite premium, however, there's only a small crowd who's interested.


Dave's Vintage has the largest inventory of anyone I know: http://gfg.com/venezuela/

80sToyguy

Thanks for all the insight guys, but they definitely didn't look like the cards posted here--they had the same borders as the 67 Topps set, you know the brown wood grain finish--at least I think it's 1967, don't have many vintage cards to compare them too, but that's what they look like.
Thanks again guys,
Jay

goodriddance189

these woodgrain cards?

roastedcat

He might be refering to this one, But w/ Babe Ruth

BigKidAtHeart

probably the 62 ruth that GoodRiddance posted

NickM

'64 Topps Venezuelans are very easy to tell from regular Topps that year if you look at the back (black rather than orange).
'60 is the one that scares me to deal with. Does anyone here have a good way to tell from a scan whether one of those cards is Topps or Topps Venezuelan?

Nick

BigKidAtHeart

NICK<
this list may help with different versions

NickM

BKAH - I'm familiar with the sets. The problem with '60 is that the differences were a poorer card stock and less gloss. In person I've been able to tell the two apart without much difficulty, but a scan just isn't the same.

Nick

80sToyguy

Goodriddance, those are the ones? What exactly are those? Like I said he's gone, but he may come back in sometime, I'd like to be able to fill him in.
Thanks so much,
Jay

80sToyguy

I meant to say, "those are the ones." Not with the ?
Thanks again,
Jay

goodriddance189

<< <i>Goodriddance, those are the ones? What exactly are those? Like I said he's gone, but he may come back in sometime, I'd like to be able to fill him in.
Thanks so much,
Jay >>



1962 Topps Babe Ruth Story Subset (think its called that). just do a search for "1962 Babe Ruth" and you should several

roastedcat

80'stoyguy-

Those are only worth like $20. in NM condition. I sold one on ebay awhile back a PSA 8 and got like $23.00 for it.

Jery

80sToyguy

Thanks for all your help guys, I knew I could count on you!
Jay