Interesting 1934 Goudey results..

GoSoxBoSox

I took five PSA 5 cards from my inventory of 1934 Goudeys, cracked them out of the holders, and resubmitted them to PSA just for kicks. All five of these cards are very strong 5's as compared to the others 5's I have so I figured there's no way they won't be 5's, maybe even 6's.

Here are the results....

1 11752279 1934 GOUDEY 5 ED BRANDT N/A 5
2 11752280 1934 GOUDEY 34 CHICK HAFEY N/A Not Holdered, Evidence of Trimming
3 11752281 1934 GOUDEY 76 HAL TROSKY N/A 5
4 11752282 1934 GOUDEY 83 JIM MOONEY N/A 4
5 11752283 1934 GOUDEY 93 FRED OSTERMUELLER N/A Not Holdered, Evidence of Trimming


Like I said...I did it for kicks. The kicks were in my back-end.

edited to say:

srs1a

ouch!

Basilone

ugh...not good.

augustaman

Very interesting. Thanks for sharing those results
with us Tom.

CON40

I smell another re-submission coming... sorry about the rugged grades...

jimtb

Yikes! An experiment gone bad,

BobS

Two out of five came back trimmed? WTF?

It's sh*t like this that turns my tummy. Are the cards identical (size wise) to other raw 34's you have. I wouldn't think a "5" would be trimmed. Maybe "Min. Size", but not "Evid of Trim".

Anywho, that really blows. My condolences.

packCollector

I always get frustrated with the minimum size and evidence of trimming. who trims 5's? who trims 70's commons? sometimes common sense gets thrown out the window

GoSoxBoSox

If the grade don't fit, resubmit.

Let me tell you....if you take my 250+ 1934 Goudey cards and stack them up by grade and then compare them you'll be sick to your stomach. It works both in my favor and against me.

I have an 8 that is worse than the average 6 in my collection. I have a card with glaring indentation on it that is graded a 7 NQ. I have a card that looks like somebody stuck a piece of chewed gum on it, and than pulled it off. Paper spots missing and stained it still got a PSA 5 NQ. These cards were the few 5's I had that I thought were VERY strong 5's with good 6 potential.

I'm okay with the fact two 5's came back. The 4 is upsetting, but those are the risk you take when you crack and re-submit. But the two trimmed results really get under my skin. That result tells me PSA failed me either the first time around or the second time around. Yet they are never liable. What? Do they think I cracked a totally fine PSA 5 card and trimmed it to see if they could catch me?

GoSoxBoSox

<< <i>I always get frustrated with the minimum size and evidence of trimming. who trims 5's? who trims 70's commons? sometimes common sense gets thrown out the window >>



I couldn't agree more. I could see the issue on high priced stars, but not the commons. I would love to see a qualifier for min. sized. Not to be confused with trimmed.

Enlightenment

I'd sure like an explanation for this from psa!! only 2 out of 5 came back the same. That is totally ridiculous. What are we supposed to believe? How do u know how many of your other already graded cards do not show "evidence of trimming" as well? how do any of us know?
P.S. Let this be a lesson to the rest of us...sorry about those awful grades. Have a

GoSoxBoSox

I called and asked to speak to the grader. Of course they laughed at me and said when you crack and re-submit how do we know you didn't damage the card or that it's even the same card? Just what I would expect them to say and I theoretically agree. I just get pissed because I know I cracked the slab and put them directly into a poly sleeves, then a Card Saver I's. Then they were packaged and shipped the next day. I guess I'm the only one that will ever know they're the same cards I took from the PSA 5 holder.

I could just put them back in the old holders. Would that be wrong? Would that make me a WIWAG'er even though the cards are the exact same cards I took out?

Enlightenment

I agree too that they do not know they are the same etc. etc. what i have the problem with is that 2 came back unholdered and one came back lower than before, even the 4 i can understand as sometimes 5's turn to 4's or 6's, but why did they not catch the supposedly trimmed cards the first time around? are they going to use the we were young and dumb explanation? like they graded them a long time ago "before" trimming became commonplace? trimming and other "enhancing" has always existed and always will as long as there is big $ to be made. If I cant trust PSA to catch the trimmed cards the first time around, who can i trust? I love PSA but this makes me uncomfortable...

Edited: to say yes u would be a WIWAG'er extraordinaire !!!!

33Goudey

Just wondering which style holder they were in????