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The new Superior Auction is up! :)

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  • kinda hard to argue with a PSA 10 Campanella rookie, eh?
  • i also like the '50 Bowman Marion Motley PSA 9 rookie
  • Great stuff once again - and a great way to spend my lunch break combing through the auctions... (now if only Mastro would go live soon!)

    Good thing I've tapered down my chase for some sets, otherwise, I'd have a tough time figuring out where to spend my money!
    Some nice 57s in the bunch.
  • BasiloneBasilone Posts: 2,492 ✭✭

    Lots of nice 50's baseball.....hockey got dissed though.
  • murcerfanmurcerfan Posts: 2,329 ✭✭
  • 19541954 Posts: 2,898 ✭✭✭
    I was just going to post the same thing. Very nice items.
    One question, maybe someone can place this item #238 on this thread. It is the 1955 All-american set. What is wrong with these football cards? All of them have a brown staining around the cards?

    I think it is a great auction. Wish they had some items that I collected in there.

    1954
    Looking for high grade rookie cards and unopened boxes/cases
  • AlanAllenAlanAllen Posts: 1,530 ✭✭✭
    1954,
    I was just going to post about that. You can see that problem on many of the lots, and I think it's due to incomplete photo enhancing. Ever notice how Superior's cards ALL look extraordinarily white? I think you can see their "true colors" on the borders of the '55's and the '53 Bowman set.

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    Joe
    No such details will spoil my plans...
  • It's always fun watching cards that you previously owned being sold for the 3rd and 4th times in the past 2 years.

    Wayne
    1955 Bowman Football
  • I'm all over the 1934 Goudey Lefty Grove in PSA 7. Sorry Bill. image


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    There is a fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness"
  • murcerfanmurcerfan Posts: 2,329 ✭✭
  • BasiloneBasilone Posts: 2,492 ✭✭

    Wayne-

    I was going to bring up that PSA 10 Ortega.....Im pretty sure who had it. I remember when you bought it the first time around. Remember like a year and half ago when all those PSA 10s (beginning with the Kirkpatrick) hit the market in a 2 week span.

    John
  • BasiloneBasilone Posts: 2,492 ✭✭


    << <i>I think you can see their "true colors" on the borders of the '55's and the '53 Bowman set. >>



    Thats kind of shady if you are correct in your observation. Thats a pretty large gap in color quality.
  • 19541954 Posts: 2,898 ✭✭✭
    Alan-
    I believe you are right about the brown border. I would not be happy if I was the consignor. On some of these cards it almost looks like they are trying to correct the centering on these by whiting over some of the image. Superior always has very nice cards consigned to them, I don't think they need to do this.

    1954
    Looking for high grade rookie cards and unopened boxes/cases
  • VarghaVargha Posts: 2,392 ✭✭
  • rw2winrw2win Posts: 557


    << <i> was just going to post about that. You can see that problem on many of the lots, and I think it's due to incomplete photo enhancing. Ever notice how Superior's cards ALL look extraordinarily white? I think you can see their "true colors" on the borders of the '55's and the '53 Bowman set. >>


    WTF - This looks like crap. If these are enhanced, some explanations need to be laid out here...
  • theBobstheBobs Posts: 1,136 ✭✭
    I know this one is sitting in the slab awkward, but... Can anyone with good "scan/software" skills confirm that this card is a rectangle? That upper left hand corner looks to be greater than 90 degrees.

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    I went to my photo editor and added a rectangle in the white border. Is the card just sitting funny or is the card funny?



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  • dstudebadstudeba Posts: 215 ✭✭
    I'm with you 1954, nothing in my department. Maybe all their consignors are vegetarians?

    Did a bit of bottom feeding for some pretty cards, but I don't expect to catch anything.

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  • rw2winrw2win Posts: 557
    54 Banks
    Look at the upper right hand corner??????
  • gemintgemint Posts: 6,101 ✭✭✭✭✭
  • Don't trust the top/bottom centering on the Brock. I know that's a real tough card and traditionally it's always o/c, but there dosen't seem to be enough of a bottom border for the top to look that short. Just a perspective from my scan.
    If it's worth doing..It's worth overdoing!!
  • yawie99yawie99 Posts: 2,575 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Lots of nice 50's baseball.....hockey got dissed though. >>



    Totally, JB. For the last week or so, I was envisioning a PSA 8 '53 Parkie Howe among a wealth of hockey listings. Not this time.
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  • Bob ! Nothing wrong with the card . Just tap the bottem of the slab down and the card will sit properly . krazy!
    Hockey!Hockey! Hockey!
  • TipemTipem Posts: 881



    WOW!!!


    An awesome collection of cards.I wish the lottery would drop in my lap.I sure could go on a shopping spree.image

    Did anyone notice lot # 96 ?1933 Goudey Babe Ruth PSA 8.I wonder how it did not receive an OC qualifier.Sure seems to be a little OC.

    Vic
    Please be kind to me. Even though I'm now a former postal employee, I'm still capable of snapping at any time.
  • murcerfanmurcerfan Posts: 2,329 ✭✭
  • BasiloneBasilone Posts: 2,492 ✭✭
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  • These borders look whiter than the labels.
  • murcerfanmurcerfan Posts: 2,329 ✭✭
  • BasiloneBasilone Posts: 2,492 ✭✭

    To be fair Murcer..those football cards are from Superior and last time I checked they did have a return policy.

    Im sure there must of been a computer glitch on the AA set, etc....to have those lines on the cards.
  • murcerfanmurcerfan Posts: 2,329 ✭✭
  • gaspipe26gaspipe26 Posts: 1,614 ✭✭✭
    Its MINE!! The Brock that is. Also, come on , enough with the conspiricy stuff. The pictures are fine.
  • murcerfanmurcerfan Posts: 2,329 ✭✭
  • BasiloneBasilone Posts: 2,492 ✭✭

    Murcerfan-

    They must of changed their policy. I went back in the archives and found this post my Chris himself:



    Monday March 17, 2003 10:12 AM



    Dear Forum Members:

    I have just returned from a weekend show in Chicago and received notice of this thread. I feel that it's critically important that I spend a moment to clear the air:

    1) THE POLICY OF SUPERIOR SPORTS IS NOW AND ALWAYS HAS BEEN THAT CONSIGNORS ARE NOT ALLOWED TO BID ON THEIR OWN LOTS. THE REASON FOR THE CHANGE IN THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS IS, ACCORDING TO OUR ATTORNEYS, A LEGAL PROTECTION AGAINST ANY SITUATION THAT MAY ARISE WHEN AN UNSCRUPULOUS CONSIGNOR BIDS ON THEIR OWN MATERIAL USING AN ASSUMED OR FRIENDS IDENTITY. Again, and regardless of the paragraph on this in the catalog which states that a consignor "may" bid on his or her items, "shill" or consignor bidding is not accepted. The simple reason for this is that I have no interest in placing a Lot in an auction and not having it sell. In fact, I am amazed that with the amount of material that goes from our auction and others straight to ebay that someone could confidently state publically that this unethical practice "must" be happening and that "these lots don't get sold."

    2) UNLIKE EVERY OTHER MAJOR AUCTION, SUPERIOR ACCEPTS RETURNS. Simply, if you don't agree that a PSA graded card is graded fairly you may return it to us for a full refund under certain conditions (within 3 days of receipt and valued at $350 +). Please think about that fact and compare this policy with that of other auctions.

    3) Finally, I want to say that I really appreciate the comments of most of the forum members. I find that most of the "positive" or "feel good" comments are from people that we have had dealings with and that many of the neutral or negative comments come from those who I don't know personally. If you don't know me, please consider this an open invitation to phone me, email me or directly contact me at any major show. I think that many of your concerns can be alleviated by a simple conversation, and feel that this can be much more fair and productive than relying on rumor and innuendo.

    Thanks for your time.
    Chris Porter
    Superior Sports



    Also...in regards to statement that the pictures look "fine". Can someone please explain the colors on these cards?


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    I would be interested to the explanation.

    John
  • murcerfanmurcerfan Posts: 2,329 ✭✭
  • Two regular posters here will be interested in a couple of long-sought cards in the current Superior auction.

    For 1420sports (Neal), there is a 1967 PSA 9 Pete Rose. Unfortunately the lower left corner is slightly dinged. Chris Porter calls it an "ultra faint indent."

    For EOMINT, there is a 1957 PSA 9 Don Drysdale. Unfortunately it has what Chris describes as "stray print issues."

    Is this a matter of buy the holder vs buy the card? It appears that both cards were fortunate to get graded PSA 9.

    Anyway, one thing I like about Chris is that, unlike most other major (non-Ebay) auctions, he is honest and forthcoming about pointing out notable defects. Most others never mention anything wrong with their cards.

    Skycap
  • helionauthelionaut Posts: 1,555 ✭✭
    Looks to me like the "level popping" that they usually do was handled by some with less attention to detail than usual. I've added some lines to the image and you can see that the middle and right cards have a mask that doesn't extend to the edges, but also doesn't line up with the left card. I presume the Mick was scanned separately and added to the other 2 later. But doesn't it look like the Mick is a little short? Maybe still within guidelines, or maybe it's a result of being scanned at a different time, settings weren't exactly the same. The area of the flip is a little smaller, too.
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    WANTED:
    2005 Origins Old Judge Brown #/20 and Black 1/1s, 2000 Ultimate Victory Gold #/25
    2004 UD Legends Bake McBride autos & parallels, and 1974 Topps #601 PSA 9
    Rare Grady Sizemore parallels, printing plates, autographs

    Nothing on ebay

  • Hello All:

    Regarding the poor image quality on some of the lots in the auction: we're working on changing them to accurately portray the cards as they are. Every image that we include is done so in an effort to present the card as accurately as possible. The strange brown coloring on those is a mystery as of now but the IT/photo people will fix them. Thanks for pointing this out.

    Regarding our Return Policy: Simply, any card that anyone buys in our auction may be returned to us for a full refund, providing that the reason is based in rational thought, not lunacy, and other basic time and payment criteria are met.
    End of story. Notice that none of the other auctions has this policy.

    Regarding the Terms and Conditions as posted currently on our site: these are the T&C's for the previous auction, (last November). Please have patience as they will be updated and clarified in the catalog and also on the site shortly. With the sale of our company closing a couple of weeks ago, we have scrambled to simplify and clarify our Terms, which were overburdened in the past with CU attorney nonsense.

    Finally - if you have an issue or a problem with our auction and truly wish to receive an answer to your concerns, then please contact me directly. Any anonymous postings on the message board with no attempt to discuss the thought with me should be looked at by others for what it is: an incendiary effort to anonymously cause problems for others, while taking no accountability for your words.

    I hope that you all enjoy the array of cards that we've worked very hard to be able to present to you, and welcome questions at any time about specific lots.

    Hobby Regards,

    Chris Porter
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    Chris Porter

    Lelands.com
  • rw2winrw2win Posts: 557


    << <i>Also...in regards to statement that the pictures look "fine". Can someone please explain the colors on these cards? >>


    Yes! Please, somebody explain this???
  • BasiloneBasilone Posts: 2,492 ✭✭

    It looks like it is an IT/photo issue. Hopefully it is just on the website and did not make it into the catalog.



    << <i>Regarding our Return Policy: Simply, any card that anyone buys in our auction may be returned to us for a full refund, providing that the reason is based in rational thought, not lunacy, and other basic time and payment criteria are met. >>



    Sounds reasonable and fair to me.
  • AlanAllenAlanAllen Posts: 1,530 ✭✭✭
    Chris,
    Thanks for posting. I think you misunderstand the issue we're having though, it's not poor image quality, it's apparent image enhancement. I'll come out and say what others are thinking, it appears the intent is to deceive bidders into thinking the card is "whiter and brighter" that it actually is. The contrast between the whitened sections and unenhanced sections is clear on scans posted in this thread. I'm not anonymous, my full name and contact info are in my profile.

    Joe
    No such details will spoil my plans...
  • murcerfanmurcerfan Posts: 2,329 ✭✭
  • The "toning" on the 1953 Bowman Color cards are from the scanner and not from the cards. I am the owner of this set and the scans were not the best quality. That being said, everyone should wait on the catalog to judge the true quality of the cards instead of making it out to be a conspiracy. Chris is a stand up guy and if you do not like the cards you get to send them back. How many other auction places do that? Sorry about the rant.

    Billy
  • Joe (or Alan) ?

    Let me get this straight: you think that we're offering a set of BROWN 1953 Bowman Color cards and BROWN 1955 Topps All Americans and that our photo people have been instructed to make the images appear WHITE? Really? Uh,...Okay.

    Let me put it this way: what purpose would that serve? If my company delivered to you a set of BROWN 1953 Bowman Colors and expected that you would gladly pay for them and be happy with them, do you really think that we would stay in business? Maybe you're confusing me with some other individuals that you may have done business with in the past, but that's simply not our MO. Our goal EVERY AUCTION, as it has been for the 5 years that I've been here, is to offer fairly described and imaged material and to have it sell to the high bidder. Period.

    Please don't take this rant personally because, as you wrote, you're only writing what apparently others may be thinking, but I just don't appreciate the "shoot first ask questions later" philosophy that some of you seem to have. There is no grand conspiracy to dupe anyone - I just gather consignments, write descriptions and sell cards!

    Chris
    Chris Porter

    Lelands.com
  • packCollectorpackCollector Posts: 2,786 ✭✭✭
    Chris well said.

    I will say that I made my 1st purchases from Superior in the December auction and all of the cards I bought were as described , if not better. Read his listings, if there is a flaw, it is usually pointed out. you don't get that anywhere else. if you don't agree with the grading on receipt, return the card. I was looking forward to this auction as well as future auctions and will be placing several bids.
  • Thanks for the update Chris.

    I've consigned a few items to you in the past as well as purchased many items from the Superior Auctions as well. In all cases, I've been extremely satisfied with my results.

    Best of luck on the upcoming auction!
  • WabittwaxWabittwax Posts: 1,984 ✭✭✭
    I think you do a good job with your listings and you are upfront with any problems with the cards. The reason that the "whitening" issue arises is because the pictures in Superior's auctions are the brightest and whitest around. When compared to Ebay auctions, they looked like whitened images. It's a fair question to ask.
  • gaspipe26gaspipe26 Posts: 1,614 ✭✭✭
    Just a better scanner than most Ebayers. Chris, dont get upset, (although I would too) Its just the usual bashers and people who think everything is one big conspiricy to get there money. I for one have always been thrilled with how cards I consigned or bought were presented. I also will use Superior again in the future for selling and purchasing.
  • pcpc Posts: 743
    Chris Porter and Superior are and have been as good as it gets.
    i'm always a happy buyer through their auctions and have never
    been disappointed.outstanding service too.image
    Money is your ticket to freedom.
  • AlanAllenAlanAllen Posts: 1,530 ✭✭✭
    Chris,
    Thanks for your reply. I did not mean to come off as attacking you, and I am certainly not a rabble rouser or a "usual basher." I have not bought from you, but by all accounts you run a classy organization.
    As I understand it, you're saying that the raw scans show the cards darker than they look in person, and you adjust the scans to show the cards more accurately? That makes sense, and I have no evidence to disprove that. You must admit though, from an outsider's point of view, that scans like this:
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    Look fishy. The white left and right borders are whiter than the flip. We expect 50-year old cards to have some honest toning, and when there is evidence of photo manipulation, it looks fishy to an outsider. That's why the question was raised. The borders of the '55 Topps cards above have what appears to me to be toning consistent with a 50-year old card; the whitened sections do not. Are all of your cards really that white, and your scanner just scanned them dark?
    If you looked just at that scan, having no experience with the seller, wouldn't you be just a little concerned, and maybe post about it on a message board? That's all I'm doing here.
    Again, I'm not intending to attack the integrity of your organization. The fact that you have a return policy, your excellent reputation, and your longevity are evidence that you are not intending to deceive people.

    Joe
    No such details will spoil my plans...
  • Chris,

    There will always be conspiracy theorists out there. You're doing fine!

    Skycap
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