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1972 to present, PSA population boom?

with PSA being so overwhelmed with submissions from the 5$ special does anyone anticipate a population boom for these issues? i'm particularly concerned with 72, 74, and to a lesser degree 75. i'm trying to formulate my bid strategy on a couple of low pop 72's in PSA 9 and i am wondering if by next month will 1/3 be 1/8 or 9 ?

i spoke with customer service this a.m. and they say they are still a week behind even with bringing in people on overtime this weekend!!. that has to mean ALOT of cards are going to hit the pop report within the next month or so.

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  • BasiloneBasilone Posts: 2,492 ✭✭

    Yep....just need some new collectors who want to buy them.
  • As a result of the special, I believe these 70's sets will look like 1968 when it's all said and done. My theory is 1968 represented a HUGE increase in production numbers at Topps (read about it some 10 years ago based upon some research into vending counts, etc.)

    Anyone working on 70's sets might want to wait a while until the market digests these big numbers. The cards are going to be cheap, cheap, cheap.

    One more thing. Since the baby boom generation ended along about 1964, add 13 years to that and you get 1977. That's where the dearth of demand for cards really rears its ugly head. Anyone desirous of completing sets from 1978-1990 should have no trouble finding cards in any and all conditions. Tons of supply and not enough competition to boost prices.
  • We might be forgetting something here folks. In order to submit 'em they first have to HAVE 'em. Do you really think there were just tons of low pop commons ouot there just waiting for a special? I don't. Why? Because at the premium they've been commanding in recent months, it wouldn't have mattered what it cost to get 'em graded. If they had 'em, they'd have submitted 'em. Don't kid yourself. Low pops are low pops for a reason, and low pops will always be low pops.

    As for mid and high pops, yeh, waiting would be a good idea. Maybe you'll be able to get those for nothing!

    Scott
  • highendhighend Posts: 534
    i agree that most PSA 8 commons from the 70's will eventually be a dime a dozen. look at the market for 74 and 75's in PSA 8 , it is very soft. in regards to low pop 9's i may be inclined to think there isn't just a bunch of them just laying around. i'm sure the special will bring more 9's out (especially since i have about 50 cards in that i'm hoping for 9's) but i still wonder how dramatic the increase will be. the price differential between a 1/3 or 1/8 can translate into a substantial amount of cash. having said that does anyone have a 72 PSA 8 grote or foli ia for sale?
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  • BasiloneBasilone Posts: 2,492 ✭✭


    << <i>low pops will always be low pops >>



    I disagree.....especially regarding 1965 Topps Baseball.
  • Toppsgun,
    While I hate to disagree, I must. There may have been a production increase but I do not believe that that alone, or even mostly accounts for the boom. I blame it Larry Fritsch, exclusively.
    For years and years, he had unopened case of 68 to present in his inventory that you could be cards from. He had tons of the stuff. A few years ago,he took a lot of the bulk of his inventory of sold it through a major auction. I believe that a lot of the high grade material that is around from those years today came directly from those cases just a few years ago. It is not just a "boom" in the # of nice cards available but a verifiable explosion.
    If a 1967 PSA 10 common comes up, it gets bids like crazy and they are few and far between. 1968 PSA 10's can be found on eBay with a search almost everyday of the year. It seems that more than just larger production is to blame for this abundance of high grade material. That has been the only major source for it I have ever heard of. There as been the box here and there but he had cases and cases. And in every series. Pull an old Fritsch ad and look. He used to sell them by series. I know people that bought them and they always complained of the centering. Don't know if he was keeping the best or not but vintage cases certainly are known with major centering issues.
    As you get into the mid 70's, other sources for unopened material were available and those can still be found readily. I think we have burned through a large portion of the "Fritsch find" material by this point. I believe that 72 and up will continue to grow in pop's by leaps and bounds. 68 thru 71 may have already seen the big growth and should fall off to slower more "normal" pop growth. 67 and before will continue to grow but at a slowing pace as the "easy to find" top quality cards dry up and more and more work is required to find what is left.
    Multiply this by the growth in set collecting and things look good for prices in some eras and in some eras, price softness may continue for some time. Do agree with your assessment for 70's sets (later 70's anyway).
    Just what the crystal ball says:
    Fuzz
    Wanted: Bell Brands FB and BB, Chiefs regionals especially those ugly milk cards, Coke caps, Topps and Fleer inserts and test issues from the 60's. 1981 FB Rack pack w/ Jan Stenerud on top.
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