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Retail Heritage Come to Mama!!!

After laughing in the faces of a few local dealers here who offered hobby boxes up for 90-100 bucks, I
held out for my favorite part of heritage collecting...the retail hunt

Ill admit I would think this is too early to find retail but thanks to the beckett guys I went out
tonight and sure enough at the local super walmart...two boxes!! well 23 count boxes...the
local fat retarded pack searcher had been through these.....but alas.....the real beef in
heritage can't be searched!!

DIE PACK SEARCHERS!!!!!!!!!

Needless to say I did very well, and these 23 packs blew away the 3 hobby boxes I bought last week.

23 packs (from 2 different boxes)

12 SP's including Sosa, Griffey and some good rookies
3 chromes...Crouthers, Teixeira,Weeks
1 Refractor Schill

AND.......beating the long 1:230 pull odds

Don Newcombe Real One Auto!!

With all the nobodies on the auto checklist I was very happy to pull someone as good as Newcombe. I
noticed the pull odds are EXACTLY the same as the hobby save for the autographed mem. the overall
GU/auto odds in both are 1:36 and both the red and blue autos are the same odds! So much for
paying jacked up hobby prices! Target and Wal-mart here I come!

Long live heritage

Kevin

Comments

  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,407 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Kevin
    I'm with you - my wife bought me a retail box of Bowman heritage from Target tonite - will go out and search for the 04 Heritage - I didn't do bad on two hobby boxes of 04 Heritage: 1 black chrome floyd (#43/55), 6 chrome, 1 refractor Crisp (360/555), Maddux and Pujols clubhouse but the qual. control was really bad - I'm sending 48 cards back to Topps due to damage - looks like a roller left a slight bend in the cards! I would be interested in retail with no premium.
    Mike
    Oh, nice pull on the auto!!!
    Mike
  • joestalinjoestalin Posts: 12,473 ✭✭
    Mike

    I did fail to mention that many of the short prints had black on them, Ill be sending back some too. I
    bought one box of bow heritage and pulled an auto AND GU...they are nice but they don't book
    for squat. Nice pickup on the black refractor, they are VERY hard to pull.

    JS
  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,407 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Kevin
    What auto did you get on the Bowman?
    Mike
    Mike
  • joestalinjoestalin Posts: 12,473 ✭✭
    the jersey was Jennings and the auto was Val Majewski. That was the first time I have ever pulled
    both from a retail 29.99 box..granted the two together wouldn't get me 10 bucks on ebay but none
    the less, nice to look at!

    JS
  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,407 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Kevin
    I don't have Val on my check list - is he from the 04 Heritage?
    Mike
    Mike
  • Joe,

    I had a conversation with a friend today and he told me that the retail version was exactly the same except you don't get that little box topper thing. I'm running out to Kmart first thing this morning to see if I can find any. I did buy a hobby box like an imbecil and my best pull was an Ishii jersey. Big deal!

    Let me know if you still need any more base cards, I might be able to fill it out for you.

    Steve
  • joestalinjoestalin Posts: 12,473 ✭✭
    Steve

    Yes the odds are the same except for the high end pulls..the auto bats and triple autos...but those are
    like 1:30,000 versus 1:34,000 LOL

    I have now pulled autos early in the retail print runs, four years straight! Arods the first two years and
    a nice Lasorda last year. I really think that early on the autograph odds are better. If you can
    pick up retail now you will be doing well. I usually pick a few from each box and keep track of what I
    pull, then if you get a bunch of chromes or an auto you know to pick from another box. I hope they
    do the sealed retail boxes too...they used to be 19.99 but last year they were 29.99 with more packs,
    heck thats less than 2.99 a pack!

    Good Luck and LMK who you pull

    Kevin
  • kevin,

    in 2001 when the hobby boxes were selling for 150 a pop i headed straight for the inner-city and found a kmart that had two opened; but full boxes that were displayed. i grabbed them, i then asked one of the stock guys if they had anymore and lo behold he came back with 6 more! a case of retail for 20 bucks over retail. (i gave the kid a 20 dollar "finders fee") . sadly, in some parts of the city, food is more important than cards.
  • Unfortunately my Kmart had no Heritage. image

    Hopefully my little hicktown is a little slower than the big cities. I'm going to check back in the next couple days. There didn't appear to be any "empty" spots on the shelves so I don't think I missed out on them.

    Steve
  • Lothar52Lothar52 Posts: 2,664 ✭✭✭
    what store did you get the heritage at????

    also...does anybody know how much a 2003 heritage mays auto books for??

    LOTH

    HEY JOE STALIN, hows about selling me that sosa...is it centered without the black marks on it?

  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,407 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Lothar52
    03 heritage May - $180 - ebay search of present and past auctions doesn't show any sales that I could find - have been looking for a few.
    Also, if anyone is collecting the Bowman heritage 03 auto - I have two Hardens for trade. Thanx
    Mike
    Mike
  • joestalinjoestalin Posts: 12,473 ✭✭
    OK so far the only places I have heard that have retail heritage are walmarts and some
    convience stores....who jack up the prices to 3.49. Walmart was selling per pack. When
    Kmart gets theirs, most likely they will have sealed 29.99 boxes......which gets you one
    free pack. I haven't see anything at target yet either.

    highend....Im curious how you did with those boxes? any autos you remember?

    Lothar....The Sosa isn't great, but Ill let you know if I get a nice one. I tired to contact a few
    guys about those 2 cards you needed for 03 but they didn't have them either. I swear that
    some inserts and SP's in 2003 were shorter than others...I mean I have like 7 NAP1 and no
    NAP 5 or 6's. Ive noticed this too with some of the SP's

    Let us know if anyone happens upon some retail!

    JS
  • Kevin, i've found Heritage at Target, Walmart, and a few gas stations ($3.49/pack)
  • joestalinjoestalin Posts: 12,473 ✭✭
    really...in what form at target? have they all been packs or any 29.99 boxes? Did you open any? Do
    you happen to do the heritage hockey sets?

    Thanks
    Kevin
  • Lothar52Lothar52 Posts: 2,664 ✭✭✭
    3.49 a good price per pack at walmart??? where do they have the cards at at walmart???? i figured those places just had poo...this is news to me.

    loth
  • We tried all three Targets near us and there were no Topps Heritage, but LOTS of Bowman Heritage. We're going to try the Super K tomorrow.
    image
  • Lothar52Lothar52 Posts: 2,664 ✭✭✭
    thanks stone for helping me find the price for that mays auto.... i guess it was worth the price of admission then (buyin the case)....i bought one for 517 last year....got almost NO SP doubles...and was 5 sp's and 4 new ages away from a master set. so in essence for 2003 i got a mays and 9 cards short of a master set...not bad???

    this year i couldnt do it...no fund with my search to complete 56 topps and a 57 topps yank's team set.....for 2005 im saving my cashola LOL

    i want 2 cases!! it will be my only time to pull cards that look like my 56 topps set. ditto for 2006 heritage...best thing about 2006 is they should be completely identical ..completely...to the originals. i hope the boarder dimensions for the pictures are the same...i mean...how sweet will it be to hold up a mantle a arod and not be able to tell the arod is newer (besides condition). with 2005 and 6 there i the size difference...so its not QUITE the same....i seem tobe the only one with a problem with this...oh well.

    let me know joestalin when u get the replacement for that sosa.. image

    loth



  • joestalinjoestalin Posts: 12,473 ✭✭
    Target, Walmart and Kmart should all have prices at 2.99..the gas stations jack them up fifty cents, I would
    only buy them as a last resort.

    Loth...So you landed a case and only got one auto? I remember back in 2001 pulling autos from
    my 2nd and third boxes...the first was Gil McDougald....I didn't know who the heck that guy was!
    My dad would tell me later he was ROY and the coaches pet. I pulled Spahn out of my third
    box and I was hooked. I remember my dealer pulled out some of his 1952 cards. They were
    magical, I had never seen real 52 cards up close...he had many of the cards that topps did
    autographs of.....those pictures are so America...in many cases guys who batted .100 or lost
    15 games,but those pictures are what makes that set. The Larry Doby card comes to mind, he
    looks lost, like a kid in a pros uniform. It was too bad that he never signed for that set, it would
    of been a nice card. Ditto for Mathews.

    Its fun to imagine 05 and 06 heritage, I hope topps puts deep thought into these sets. Im not sure
    I liked the longer pull odds on the autographs and the weaker list this year but....man if you want to see a true
    auto list go back to that 2001 list...1:152 packs too.....Mays, Snider, Spahn, Roberts, Bonds, Arod, Nomar,
    Glavine...all with the same pull odds! That will never be done again.

    Went to my target tonight and didn't see anything....if I remember right they are usually behind.

    Kevin
  • kevin- from the 2001 retail i scored i remember a kris benson auto that was it. i did get the korean war relic mays, a rizzuto grandstand, a couple of chromes (they were much tougher then). i was in it for the sp's. i sold the auto and the chromes and dupe sp's and made most of my money back.

    this year i pre-ordered 3 cases from blowout/eastcwholesale at 491 per in late december. i busted two cases and made over 600 back selling dupes , chrome, refractors, double headers, and jersey cards. i gave my son an arod , randy johnson, and pujols jersey and a bunch of the chromes he wanted. sounds pretty good right? i had the third case sitting in my den a buddy said he wanted it, i sold it to him for cost. he pulled a red ink /55 mays, and an ichiro black refractor!!
  • joestalinjoestalin Posts: 12,473 ✭✭
    you are kidding me!! dang.....that isn't his Ichiro black on ebay that sold for 75 is it?

    Who does your kid collect? Do you put together and keep heritage sets?

    JS
  • Lothar52Lothar52 Posts: 2,664 ✭✭✭
    i also pulled from my case of 2003 heritage a modern philly shortstop??? who knows..........see i know mcdougle while i dont know anybody from today lol..funny..i just turned 27 too....i should know todays players better!!

    loth
  • joestalinjoestalin Posts: 12,473 ✭✭
    you mean rollins....he had a good year a while back but has been a disappointment. It was nice
    to see no modern players in the 2002 set..I guess they are creaping back...but it does look like
    your chances of pulling a Mays auto and an auto of a modern player are the same this year.

    I know todays modern players pretty well but there are ALOT of new faces in this new
    heritage set! Some of these rookies could be worth a bunch someday. Do you have any
    spare 02 heritage Nix's laying around? LOL

    Kevin
  • kevin- my son collects alot of the modern (85 to present) rookie stars and chrome cards of the stars from the same period, as well as jersey and bat cards.

    the ichiro is not the one on ebay, my friend vinny is keeping that as well as the mays.

    i have put together complete master sets and the grandstand glory subsets since '01.
  • joestalinjoestalin Posts: 12,473 ✭✭
    LMK if there are any certain cards that your son can't find. You don't happen to have any extra chromes
    from 03 heritage do you?

    LMK
    Kevin
  • kevin-i think i may have some refractors as well chrome. do you need anything in particular. maybe we can work a trade i'm looking for grandstand glory from this years edition. i'm also looking for the posada/ berra relic from last year.....jim
  • joestalinjoestalin Posts: 12,473 ✭✭
    Here are the regular chromes I need from 2003:

    8
    20
    44
    47
    49
    57
    58
    65
    84
    89
    94
    96

    I haven't pulled any of the grandstand glory cards this year yet.

    Kevin
  • i'll check it out during the week, LMK if you pull any GSG.
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