Trying to get a fast education on Proof Penny's

nemesis93457

I lurk in the PCGS boards allot and noticed some of you collect allot of pennys. I have what might seem like a dumb question. I am building a Proof date set 1958 (B-Day) and it is almost impossible to find Proof 58 pennys as well. I am not really sure what the Designations of RD etc. are. Is there any links that might teach me something about the proof pennys? For that matter some things about date set that included just the proofs? Thanks..............Walt

Oh, and if you have any thing that would help a say PR68 set please feel free to let me know.

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MadMarty

There are lots of 1968 Proof Sets out there, they have gone way up in price and are very had to find CAM and DCAMs in!

relayer

The Penny guys will get mad if you don't call them cents.

GaCoinGuy

CopperCoins.Com is a good place to start for information on cents. Proof wheaties can be found on EBay from time to time........a shop local to me has proof sets still in the cello from time to time from the 50s..........not priced too bad either.....are you wanting a slabbed(certified) or a raw set? The designation of RD, RB, and BN refer to the color of the coin, where RD is full lustrous bright red, RB has started to turn, but has lots of red left, and BN has gone from red to a full brown color. If you go the cello proof set route, be on the lookout for the cameos, which while not always there, are simply stunning on the proof wheats.

Good luck in your set building and welcome to the boards.........hope you brought a lot of pens and paper, cause there is a lot to be learned here.

edsondl

nemesis,

There are lots of 1958 sets out there too that have gone up in price. (I think that Marty just missed the "5" for the "6" ) The 1958 set seems to be a tough set to find right now. I am still loking for a 1958 proof nickel for my raw set. (and I don't want to pay much more for it than I paid for its 1957 and 1959 brothers)

The 1958 set goes for about $60 in mint cello. Only $24 for either the 1957 or 1959 sets. Micheal Dixon Prices

-Dan

RD means Red - no toning
RB means Red-Brown - half toned brown
BR means Brown - totally brown, no longer as issued bright copper color

merz2

nemesis
As one of the Lincoln Proof collectors and a purist (RED only) and the proud owner of the only PCGS 1958 PR69 RD Lincoln,I'd be happy to answer any of your questions.

airplanenut

<< <i>RD means Red - no toning
RB means Red-Brown - half toned brown
BR means Brown - totally brown, no longer as issued bright copper color >>

This is partially true, but not quite... copper has shades of fire-red to brown--the brown's not really toning.

Red is simply a red coin, and can have some red toning to it.

A red brown coin is a coin that is still somewhat red (around half at least), but may be either brown... or toned

A brown coin has little original red, but it may not be brown at all--it could be toned.

The color descriptions are more a degree of original red left, not the actual color of the coin (although many brown coins are brown)... here is where toning comes into play:

Red Brown Coins:
(raw- most likely RB)

There's red beneath the toning, so there's a shot it could go RD... on the other hand, it's got a lot of toning, so that may preclude RD.

(PCGS)

Enough red to keep the RB designation--although enough toning to keep the coin from RD.

(PCGS)

This one is another half red/half toned (although the toning is red, it is too far from copper red to keep RD)

(NGC)

Half of the coin is red--half is toned.

Brown Coins:

(PCGS)

This is a really cool coin--a little red, a lotta blue... too much to get the RB designation, so it's "Brown"

(raw)

This isn't brown at all, but it's not red, either--since no red remains, it will get the BN designation.

andy007