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1962 Topps Football Bucks

mr300bowlmr300bowl Posts: 55
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I have a dozen or so of these in very nice condition, including Bart Starr and Bobby Layne. My question is does PSA grade these and is there any market or demand for them.

Thanks, Kurt
Currently working on Football HOF Autographs, 1999 SP Signatures and other on the card autograph sets

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  • martymarty Posts: 202
    On eBay the commons are selling from $1.00 up and Fran Tarkinton sold for $13.28. I sent one to PSA and it came back a 3 due to the crease, fold, that Topps put in the card to insert it into the wax packs.
    Marty
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  • VirtualizardVirtualizard Posts: 1,936 ✭✭
    Marty,

    Are you sure that is the reason it got a PSA 3? That doesn't sound right if it was issued that way.

    My 1971 Topps Scratch-offs Willie Stargell got a PSA 7 and it was folded in half and inserted into a pack:


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    Why the double standard? I would question PSA on that one. It sounds like a grader didn't know what he was looking at.

    I'm not familiar with the Football version, but Topps also issued "Baseball Bucks" in 1962 and they were sold separately (i.e. not inserted into packs). Centering is usually the determining factor in the low grading of these. Are you sure the "Football Bucks" weren't sold, unfolded, in separate packs as well?

    JEB.

  • mr300bowlmr300bowl Posts: 55
    I just checked the pop report and only 5 have ever been graded and the highest is a 6.
    All of mine have the fold the was needed to fit them in the pack, but I don't think they should
    downgrade for that. 1955 Baseball Doubleheaders dont appear to be downgraded for their
    fold. Maybe I'm wrong on this, I don't know.

    Kurt
    Currently working on Football HOF Autographs, 1999 SP Signatures and other on the card autograph sets
  • ejguruejguru Posts: 618 ✭✭✭
    Guys: Is there a market for the scratch offs? DO they come up on ebay often?
    "...life is but a dream."

    Used to working on HOF SS Baseballs--Now just '67 Sox Stickers and anything Boston related.
  • VirtualizardVirtualizard Posts: 1,936 ✭✭


    << <i>Guys: Is there a market for the scratch offs? DO they come up on ebay often? >>



    EJ,

    Yes, they do come up fairly frequently on ebay. I've purchased lots of them, as well as individual cards - only if they clearly state that the inside has not been scratched off. I submitted this one to PSA a few months ago. It's the best example of the Stargell that I've found so far. I can't imagine a card from this issue grading higher than an 8. The way they were perforated and folded makes it a nightmare to get a high grade - plus, most were probably scratched off when they were pulled from packs. I still need a gradeable copy of the 1970 Scratch-off Stargell. It can be differentiated from the 1971 card by a white background on the scratch-off side (the 1971s are red). Let me know if anyone has a nicely centered, unscratched 1970 version.

    JEB.
  • FuzzFuzz Posts: 903
    Very valuable post.
    I was unaware that Topps was grading either of these two issues. I had a 70 pack with the seal pop'd a very months ago. Only got four 8's (due to centering) though the rest are sharp. I just had the Scratch off lying there wondering what I would do with it. Now I know. I will send it in. Sorry JEB, it is not a Stargell. I will probably keep it in my pile of "why do I have this".
    Regarding the Bucks: Baseball was a seperate issue. The wrapper is well know and relatively inexpensive. The display box is unbelievably tough though. Centering is a primary issue on the set as well as the very fragile corners.
    The FB issue was folded and inserted into regular wax packs from the that year. It is listed on the front of the harder of the two wrapper variations from that year. It seems to have been a "late in the year issue" as there are not very many bucks by comparison to the card totals. Unopened packs have been found with that wrapper and appear to be re-wrap's of some kind. One that I am aware of being opened had a "st" card in the middle. The buyer, who opened complained. He got three SP's, a Layne and another star who I do not remember. All the cards were exceptionally clean.
    Fuzz
    Wanted: Bell Brands FB and BB, Chiefs regionals especially those ugly milk cards, Coke caps, Topps and Fleer inserts and test issues from the 60's. 1981 FB Rack pack w/ Jan Stenerud on top.
  • spacktrackspacktrack Posts: 1,084 ✭✭
    Fuzz:

    Sorry to hijack a post, but I hope you see this. Sent you an e-mail earlier this month and was wondering if you got it. my e-mail if you need to reach me. I had heard you were on vacation.

    Thanks,

    spacktrack
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