Error/Variety #11: 1908-S Philippines Peso

1jester

Here's an interesting error coin I found recently. Although it's been hairlined practically to death, it's still noteworthy in that it appears to be a nice example of massive doubling on both sides of the coin. In addition to that, there might be evidence of a 7 lurking under the 8 in the date. Notice: All scanned images have been sharpened. See for yourselves:

1jester

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Steve27

Nice find! I'm not sure what that is under the "8" but it is interesting.

FilamCoins

Funky coin!

And what's going on with the mint mark? Is that S over S???

Justhavingfun

Jeepers, I must be cracking up. I'd have sworn I posted on this. Well, I've been the the ole US of A and promptly got sick either from exposure on the long flight or the cold weather. BRRRRR.

So maybe my brain is addled, but Mr. 1 Jester, I'm really sorry but I don't think the coin is anything special. The "shadow" under the 1, the 8, and the S is pretty common with old dies and I think that's all it is. Let's hope I'm wrong about this.

The second image under Peso -- that's more impressive. It may be machine doubling; it may be a genuine double die. I can't tell from the scan. Good luck and ...

Best wishes,



Just Having Fun

1jester

Thank you for your comments, Mr. Fun! I do hope you manage to overcome your symptoms ASAP!!!

I don't know what's going on with this coin; I've never seen such pronounced doubling on any coin, and yet the doubling appears rather strange, in that every doubled image consists of a bumpy surface rather than a smooth one; you can make this out in the scans too. The mint mark's doubling is a full 40% below the S, which is a long way. Other digits in the date are clearly doubled.

You're probably right that it's not worth a second glance, but it's intreaguing to me nonetheless. I don't have any idea how the market will ever value such oddities, but I enjoy finding them.

Justhavingfun

Dear 1jester: Enjoying your coins is what it's all about. And some time, why don't you show coin around to a few experts like Fred Weinberg or Warren Mills, who really had great eyes. It would be very interesting to hear what they have to say.

Warm regards,



Just Having Fun

Spinynorman

It is die deterioration doubling. A good clue is that it's on the mint mark as well, which was punched and not hubbed.

1jester

Thanks for the input, Spiny! I've never seen this type of doubling before--at least not die deterioration doubling that looks like this. But your theory seems sound.

lordmarcovan

Nice pics, Jester.

1jester

Thanks, miLord!! It's a Hewlet Packard 3500C flatbed scanner at 1200 DPI.