Got my FUN show PCGS submission back today, and I am a happy man!!!

lordmarcovan · February 14, 2004 12:07AM

1913 Ty.1 Buffalo (expected a 62, hoped for a 63 or better): MS63
1935 Buffalo (expected a 64, hoped for a 65 or 66): bodybag: cleaned Oh, well.
1874 gold dollar (expected a 50 or a 53): AU58 Yeah!
1904 $20 Lib (cracked out of a PCI 62 holder, knew it should 63 at least): MS64 WOOHOO!

They picked the cheapest coin to BB, so no big loss there. I'm tickled pink, particularly on the $20 Lib.

trozau · February 14, 2004 12:08AM

kewl!

itsnotjustme · February 14, 2004 12:09AM

Nice job! That's not the raw Lib you offered me is it??

Wisconsin · February 14, 2004 12:09AM

Good Job...

ajaan · February 14, 2004 12:14AM

hmmm . . . how did you crack that out of the PCI holder?

lordmarcovan · February 14, 2004 12:18AM

<< Nice job! That's not the raw Lib you offered me is it?? >>

No, the raw one I had sold in my mall booth. It was an 1882-S, MS61 or so, but had some digs over the portrait that would have BB'ed it.

<< hmmm . . . how did you crack that out of the PCI holder?

>>

He knows the answer to that... he was there.

Easiest crackout ever. We were staying in a condo for the show, and I went out on the deck, stuck the slab between two boards on the porch, where it was standing upright, then pushed it forward with my shoe. Crrrrack! First-ever crackout-by-penny-loafer!

Newmismatist · February 14, 2004 12:21AM

<< 1904 $20 Lib (cracked out of a PCI 62 holder, knew it should 63 at least): MS64 WOOHOO! >>

Proves my "mantra": "buy the coin not the plastic" - Also, shows that if you know how to grade, it doesn't matter if its in a 3rd world slab -(but always the chance that they've be played with and you can't see it thru the plastic - so there's always risk)

At FUN I submited a coin that had been cracked out of a PCGS holder, then BB'd by NGC & when submitted raw to PCGS, it upgraded by 2 points!

(Absolutely could not understand the BB by NGC - I was sure it would be a least a 1 pt upgrade - on the other hand, PCGS downgraded one of my coins that came out of a PCGS holder and I thought it would upgrade

)

mdwoods · February 14, 2004 12:21AM

Congrats on the $20 Lib LM.

jeffnpcb · February 14, 2004 12:33AM

Boy, don't you hate a lower 3rd. party grading company over-grade a coin and have to send to PCGS to get it corrected!!

lordmarcovan · February 14, 2004 12:33AM

<< Proves my "mantra": "buy the coin not the plastic" - Also, shows that if you know how to grade, it doesn't matter if its in a 3rd world slab -(but always the chance that they've be played with and you can't see it thru the plastic - so there's always risk) >>

True- I got burned once when I tried to crack something out of an ACG slab. It would have upgraded as I thought, but it ended up net-grading at ANACS because it was tooled and cleaned.

The $20 Lib was in an old PCI green-label slab, BTW. I've had some success upgrading those before (at NCG). Doubt I'd have had as much luck if it had been in a newer PCI-gold slab.

lordmarcovan · February 14, 2004 12:35AM

Hey, Jeff has a holey coin icon!

ms71 · February 14, 2004 12:52AM

Terrific hit. I have upgraded PCI (green) XF45 to PCGS AU53 and AU53 to PCGS AU58, but that's nothing like your score. 62 to 64 could be upwards of a $1K bump in today's market.

Dennis88 · February 14, 2004 12:59AM

Congrats!!!

lordmarcovan · February 14, 2004 1:00AM

<< Terrific hit. I have upgraded PCI (green) XF45 to AU53 and AU53 to AU58, but that's nothing like your score. 62 to 64 could be upwards of a $1K bump in today's market. >>

PCGS prices:

$625 in 62
$895 in 63
$1,735 in 64

I bought it at VF price ($450)

It "walked in off the street", in dealer parlance- I bought it at my mall booth, from a member of the general public. (The owner of a local seafood restaurant, from whom I also bought the gold dollar, and a second gold dollar that I later noticed had a mount removed, so I didn't submit that one.) He had bought them some time ago, I think when spot was a lot lower- I basically bought them from him at the same price he had paid a decade or so back. They still had price stickers from an old dealer here in town who retired a few years back and moved away.